WhatsApp is one step closer to adding email address verification

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WhatsApp is one step closer to adding email address verification - Lemmy NZ

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The boomers who are using zuckerapp do have emails. It will work out fine 😁
WhatsApp isn’t only for boomers. Pretty much everyone with a smartphone uses it.
People who use edge maybe.
In Europe, it’s so common that it is a requirement for some parts of society.

No, just everyone in Europe and South America and India.

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And almost everyone in Central America and Mexico and 45% of Canadians and high 90% range for most of Africa. So like, everyone but the USA, China, Japan, and Russia.
In Russia it is VERY widespread actually, at least with the older generation. But Telegram is probably more prevalent among younger people.
Telegram won’t bow to countries. Russians know that Pavel had to emigrate due to that. WhatsApp surely complies to all russian inquiries :-)
At least edge is a better browser than whatsapp a messenger :-)
just barely, they are pretty close in their bullshit levels.
Never met an it-pro using that thing. And beside some boomers and younger technically challenged, i have never seen one using it. To each his own. People actually use facebook too. Or even twi… Errr. X.
In Europe it’s used by almost everyone.
I’m also in Europe. And for me it’s as i said. Wouldn’t even know one reason FOR whatsapp besides the popularity.
Yeah, that’s small little thing, that everyone uses it. I’ve been waiting to get away from WhatsApp for years, but I would be an idiot to say that I can get away from it and still communicate with my family and friends via text.

If everyone would think this way, all other messengers would be extinct and Zuckerberg would rule over everyones most personal data. And then, oh wonder, it suddenly has a subscription-cost too.

Not for me. If people are so stubborn to use it, they gotta go back to email or sms if they really wanna reach me. I don’t use that crap, nor facebook or twitter or instagram or tiktok or…

It is extremely widespread in Europe. In Germany, a good 50 million people (out of 80) use it every day. I would describe myself as very tech-savvy and privacy-conscious and would normally never use it , but since everyone in the family and friends use it without exception, there is no escape.
Same here. You can not use it yourself but it will mostly keep you out of the loop on everything.
How is that even a thing? are your data-plans that shitty that this bit of whatsapp-traffic matters? Unless you’re sending some hour-long movies every days.

Data plans exists, but there is no good middle ground. You have the unlimited 4g connection for 20 USD , or the WhatsApp only for a few dollars.

Most of the people, specially older age or people who already have unlimited data from work phones, do not need 4g unlimited connection, so why spend extra 15 USD (which is a lot in latin America), if you can still communicate perfectly fine via WhatsApp.

Depends on the country, in mine data plans are not that expensive (add some asterisks to that). But they include those ā€œwhatsapp freeā€ or some streaming service traffic with no cost to get the edge over other phone companies. All of them mostly have the whatsapp free thing.

I used to live in a different country and it did make a significant difference, as @[email protected] points out below.

You mean the WA-traffic made a significant difference? But how? It’s still mostly just text, no?

Here data is expensive, but a messenger wouldn’t make a difference (unless you’d exchange a lot of large files) so that any provider would gain a benefit over the competition. Including TV or netflix or tidal hifi, that’d would. Weird…

You mean the WA-traffic made a significant difference?

No, I don’t mean that. Whatsapp traffic (files i don’t think is included in the deal) is treated by the companies independently of other data traffic. You may not have a data plan, but still get a ā€œwhatsapp freeā€ thingy, you can text for free via whatsapp without using data plans.

Ahhh i see. So no data at all but still free WA. That does make sense. And is pretty mean 😊
I’m german too, and I just deny using a tool just because ā€œeveryone else does itā€. Those who use it and want to contact me, have bad luck or just use a decent messenger. This ā€œthere-is-no-escapeā€-mentality helps that shitty company to keep its grasp on people. I try to educate and offer alternatives. If it’s not accepted, then at least I tried.

Nah man, I value way more the contact with my mum and close friends more than refusing to use an stupid app.

If my mum is in trouble and try to message me via WhatsApp: ā€œsorry mum, I don’t answer WhatsApp messages, good luck next time trying to get someone to help youā€. By the way, most of my family calls via WhatsApp because we live in different countries.

So. They can choose the app, but you mustn’t? That’s a weird reasoning imho.

You know, there’s still a thing like sms or email if they really have to and ignore my simple wishes.

Yeah, they do, that’s what living in a society is, not everyone does as you want, and you have to compromise.I have my own choices (in other aspects) which they probably have to live with. But I’m not going to ghost my mum just because she uses WhatsApp, that’s plain entitlement and stupidity.

Sorry, but it’s not ghosting to me if they’re ignorantly refusing to use anything else than this piece of crap software despite any explanation and help to install another one. Unless they’re technically that challenged, that they would need years to understand it. I would accept nearly ANY other messenger, which i would install too. Once had viber installed just because one friend was slovakian and it’s their thing there. But not WA. To me it’s integrity, i couldn’t look in the mirror if I’d be installing what i despise. Like a vegan eating meat not to offend someone.

I know, most people don’t care about those things at all. But I do. And i hate, that the worst companies always win the races. I can’t hate AND support it at the same time.

Of course email serves a different purpose. But that’s beside sms the only alternative that’s most likely already installed/available. I get a message on my messenger whenever i receive an email on any account, so i least it would be little lag for me.

check out deltachat! it’s for messaging… over email!

IT Pro here. I use it. WhatsApp was around way before Zuckerberg was involved with it.

I’m all for getting away from WhatsApp but at this point it’s well ingrained with the general population. I’d love to see RCS take over.

You have never been to South America.
Sadly no. But would not change my stance anyway 😊

WhatsApp: ā€œyou can now use email to access your account if you can’t use your phone for some reasonā€

This community: ā€œREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEā€

The problem is that they’re reaching for emails in addition to phone numbers. Don’t think for a second they’re going to let you login with just email. They want email just to have yet another data metric to profile you with.
  • using an insecure medium like email to facillitate access to e2eencrypted messages. 1) you cant do that with Signal
My reeeing depends if they are going to make it mandatory.

Maybe they need it to link WA accounts to FB accounts.

Signal FTW.

Signal

Which wants a phone #.

They are working on doing away with the requirement
As far as I know, it would still be needed at registration, just would give you an option to hide it and thus it would stop being your main identifier.

You mean instead of tying into a phone, right ?

The only point in time my lack of a phone number becomes an issue is for archaic stuff like this.

I am waiting for Cross Messenger Law of Europe it means that Signal and Whatsapp User can talk to each other.

If Whatsapp really wants to scare away there Users many are gonna switch because of the Email old persons have EMails but no clue how to use it.

Its easier to install another Messenger than EMail Verifikation.

I think Signal is against that because it compromises their security model. Also I think they aren’t required by law to implement it but I’m not sure.
This sounds like what Element has been doing for years already. You can sign up with an email and optionally link a phone number to your account. When WhatsApp does it though, it’s newsworthy.
In the realm of ā€œbusiness WhatsApp Web,ā€ this advancement could signal a heightened focus on providing secure and reliable communication tools for enterprises. Businesses often leverage WhatsApp Web for efficient communication, and the introduction of email verification could be a proactive measure to address the unique security needs of corporate users.