David Zipper“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
— Upton Sinclair
legraLeGra🤷♀️
I’m a climate scientist from west Texas — having had three previous generations’ family supported with fossil fuel money.
It’s not THAT difficult when it’s for the love of your children.
Pablo Rrrrrrr@davidzipper Wait, I thought that was from a year ago. He’s STILL talking about the fucking tunnels? Jesus, people are so fucking gullible.
Tab Combs@davidzipper That tweet...it's... I mean how does he think that hiding traffic underground "solves" it? Aside from the obvious and well-known denial of the well-established concept of induced demand, what is there to "solve" about traffic?
Traffic is movement of people and goods. How does providing a way (albeit a crappy way) to move people and goods "solving" the movement of people and goods?
And that photo...it's showing how traffic was redirected after a failure of critical infrastructure...
Traffic is movement of people and goods. How does providing a way (albeit a crappy way) to move people and goods "solving" the movement of people and goods?
And that photo...it's showing how traffic was redirected after a failure of critical infrastructure...
Now at @@DrTCombs @davidzipper Tunnels can help solve traffic...
...if they have a frequent metro service running through them.
@davidzipper ...so how does creating an even less resilient form of infrastructure--a tunnel in a city that is globally famous for seismic activity--"solve" the fact that when you force everyone into cars by investing only in infrastructure for cars, and when one of those bits of car infrastructure goes out, everybody gets piled onto the other bits of car infrastructure?
@davidzipper I mean I know we're arguing with a post turtle here, but geez louise it's gobsmacking how illogical his words are sometimes.
Pete@DrTCombs @davidzipper It's almost as if the Boring Company was only intended as a way to sell more cars. 😐
@forpeterssake @davidzipper yeah, weird how it feels exactly as if that's its whole purpose or something
SteveYYC@forpeterssake @DrTCombs @davidzipper
Come on, now: It’s also a way to get municipalities to deprioritize public transit upgrade initiatives.
The Boring Company hype starts up in any city looking at better transit options and then evaporates as soon as the transit reform stalls out from overchoice.
Curt Thomas@DrTCombs @davidzipper
I've heard that tunnels are actually pretty resilient to earthquakes if you need them to be. Some of CAHSR's planned tunnels are very near the San Andreas fault, for example. I have significant doubt that Boring Co tunnels will be built to the requisit standard.
I've heard that tunnels are actually pretty resilient to earthquakes if you need them to be. Some of CAHSR's planned tunnels are very near the San Andreas fault, for example. I have significant doubt that Boring Co tunnels will be built to the requisit standard.
Tw@davidzipper he’s really trying to sell ‘out of sight, out of mind’
Koantig@davidzipper
It's "one more lane!" again, but underground.
It's "one more lane!" again, but underground.
foxpotato
Simon White@davidzipper obviously never played SimCity or Cities Skylines
Michael J. Orlando@davidzipper Nothing conveys an out-of-sight-out-of-mind ethos like suggesting the solution to the myriad problems of automobile traffic is to bury it.
@davidzipper Very true, and very unfortunate. Elon’s fixation on tunnels is all the more concerning in the context that we already have a solution to traffic problems (although governments don’t seem willing to invest in it): public transportation, especially trains.
Brian Moakley
HE FIXED TRAFFIC
Shadow Heart@davidzipper its literally sweeping the mess under the rug, its still there just out of site mostly.