So. Three folks I follow are echoing pretty much the same sentiment I've been trying to express and are spending less time here.

I'll preface with a reminder that you may very well feel my opinions are bunk. I am a successful YouTuber, after all, with all the privileges that entails.

But here's the brass tacks: it's harder for me to be here comfortably than it was on the birdsite. And to be honest, I think Mastodon's always gonna be this way.

Whenever I encounter problems, I am inevitably told I should try different instance. Whenever anybody has problems, people say "maybe you should move instances"

I do not know why so many people fail to grasp this, but we are experiencing mastodon between instances far more than we are on our own. I hardly ever look at the home tab for mas.to, I look at who I'm following on the Home feed.

That in-betweeny space is apparently impossible to moderate.

If a post of mine gets a boosted to a broader audience, I am subject to harassment. I'm not going to sugarcoat that, it's harassment.

Sure, of the various kinds of harassment I have not been subject to anything serious. But it is exhausting and personally insulting, with one person telling me in no uncertain terms that they don't believe my job should be a job.

This. Fucking. Sucks.

And who's accountable for taming that? Nobody! Because it's between instances.

@TechConnectify I’m curious — are there other platforms that handle this kind of harassment better?

@michaelgemar Twitter, for one! If for no other reason that it could automatically detect most harassment and make it hard to find or shadow ban it completely.

But that would be introducing an algorithm to the things you see, which people don't want

@TechConnectify Huh — my priors would have been that Twitter was bad at that sort of thing.

It’s really unfortunate there are no good current solutions on Mastodon. Its nature does allow for lots of experimentation, including by…instances…, but the fix clearly doesn’t exist yet.

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] From the lived experience of many Black Twitter users: There are *more* overt nazis on the Fediverse than on Twitter. There is *more* anti-Blackness on the Fediverse than on Twitter. Eg, The nonsense that happened to Ro last week, would not stand on Twitter. The *checks notes* close to 40 million Black Twitter users, including almost *checks notes* half a million Black trans users, would put a stop to that. Quickly. Mastodon is not necessarily less of a nazi bar for Black folk.

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@jdp23 @michaelgemar @mekkaokereke @TechConnectify The linked post misses the point - there may be *somewhere* lots of Nazis on Mastodon, and there may be even more on the other side of the world, can't do much against them either. The difference to Twitter is that I've never seen them in my timeline or interactions, while on Twitter their postings get shoved into my face immediately.

@Hurgotron @jdp23 @michaelgemar @TechConnectify

The linked post doesn't miss any point.

The post is written from the perspective of a Black person. In particular, me. 🙋🏿‍♂️

I don't care that you've never seen n*zis on your timeline. I've seen them on mine.

You're really replying that it misses the point, because it doesn't center your perspective and experience, and instead centers the perspective and experience of the person that wrote it?

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding your point here.

@mekkaokereke @jdp23 @michaelgemar @TechConnectify I don't know what you are doing to see Nazis in your timeline, but I'm only seeing stuff I follow, or others on my instance post and follow, and that happens to be not Nazis. Maybe I am wrong, but therefore it appears to be possible not to be exposed to Nazis on Mastodon. While on Twitter it seems to be impossible - I tried, with two very different accounts, and anonymously. If I missed how to do it, I'd really like to know.

@Hurgotron @jdp23 @michaelgemar @TechConnectify So, lemme try a different tack here(after dropping Mekka)
I’ve been on Twitter since 2007. I’ve NEVER seen a Nazi post in my timeline1️⃣.

Now I can tell you why that is2️⃣, but imagine if I just told you “well, YOU must be doing something to bring them to you” or “there are no Nazis on Twitter because I don’t see them.

That’s how this sounds.

@Hurgotron @jdp23 @michaelgemar @TechConnectify 1️⃣ unless it was reposted by someone else to point it out, get the account reported, etc.

2️⃣ because I have/had my Twitter controls pretty tightly set and only used third party iOS Twitter apps that granted even finer control and NEVER used the “for you” timeline.

@Wraithe I was under the impression that 3rd party clients have been dead for about a year, and besides, the view got set to "for you" automatically quite a few times, so it's kinda hard to never use it. But anyway, it is beside the point that you can hide the problem by taking extra steps - this is rather acknowledging that the problem exists.

@Hurgotron Note I NEVER said there are no Nazis on Twitter. Just because I don’t see them, doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Same with Mastodon. Just because YOU don’t see them doesn’t mean it’s not an issue. It just means it’s not an issue for YOU (because they’re leaving you alone)

I took my steps BEFORE the nazis became an issue and I never thought about my settings until people started noting there was an issue and I started wondering why I wasn’t seeing it on Twitter.

@Wraithe Good going, but still somewhat exceptional. There was just recently a bunch of advertisers pulling away from X because they don't like their ads to be displayed next to Nazi content. - Anyway, I got your point, actually I got it even before, because of the previous posts. Yes I was wrong, will shut up and read up. I was told Mekka's account has some enlightening info.

@Hurgotron Ok glad you wrote the last part, because I was neither trying to show how good I am at Twitter, nor was I trying to say that Twitter isn’t a fucking morass of hell right now(it is).

There are a ton of threads on issues that Black/queer/BIPOC (Black, Indigenous & People Of Color) had on Mastdon.
(And be utterly clear, similar crap is happening over on BlueSky as well)

I’ll see if I can turn up a couple of the threads, I’m sure I bookmarked at least a few of them.

@Hurgotron Oh and yes the 3rd party clients are mostly dead. I have one that still works but I’m mostly only on Twitter to keep my account “active” (they can have my handle when they flat out steal it from me)