People arguing that the state shouldn't run empty buses forget that most cars driven to work can seat 5 people and are 80% empty.

Maybe we shouldn't run empty cars either

@Andrev

I haven't had a car that can comfortably seat 5 American adults in the 37 years I've owned cars (I've mostly owned 2dr sedans and roadsters)

@ferricoxide @Andrev Okay, but surely you must have noticed you're an outlier? The percentage of cars these days that are SUVs or similar is way higher than it needs to be, and still climbing.

(Then there are the pickup trucks, which have a reduced passenger capacity... but take up roughly 3 times as much road as they need to. Don't @ me without noting the percentage of pickups on the roads that have cargo in the bed vs. the percentage with empty beds.)

@kagan @Andrev

There's two types of SUVS, though: 2- and 3-row SUVs. While you
can jam 5 people into a 2-row, you8nit going to do it _comfortably. The "5 seats" thing with 2-row SUVs is bullshit. When they say "seats 5", they mean 2+3 (i.e, 2 adults and 3 children).

As to the pickups: they're a daily gripe. Most of the ones around here are "take our Mini countryman, jack it up 18" (often more), tack on a bed and add a further half ton of weight" (for ICE; 3t for EV). The gripe being that they always take up a ridiculous amount of space in retail parking lots and often don't even fit in garages due to their height. And, for street parking, they usually take up a space and a half (but pay the same amount at the meter that I do).