stopthatgirl7Nov 19, 2023

Israel and Hamas reach tentative U.S.-brokered deal to pause conflict, free dozens of hostages

Israel, the United States and Hamas are close to an agreement to free dozens of women and children held hostage in Gaza, in exchange for the first sustained pause in conflict in Gaza, according to people familiar with its provisions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/18/us-israel-hamas-reach-tentative-deal-pause-conflict-free-dozens-hostages/

U.S. close to deal with Israel and Hamas to pause conflict, free some hostages

Israel, the United States and Hamas are close to an agreement to free dozens of women and children held hostage in Gaza, in exchange for the first sustained pause in conflict in Gaza, according to people familiar with its provisions.

The Washington Post
Show threadqueermunist she/herNov 19, 2023

Five days isn’t enough, but maybe can be stretched out to a real ceasefire by further negotiation?

If Biden pulls off a ceasefire I’m voting for him. If he doesn’t, I won’t. Simple as.

Show threadNuXCOM_90PercentNov 19, 2023
Because trump totally would have gotten that ceasefire
Show threadqueermunist she/herNov 19, 2023

I will not vote for genocide. That’s my red line. If you vote for the lesser of two genocides you’re still voting for genocide.

If Biden actually manages to stop Israel from continuing its genocide he has my vote! That’s all it would take and that is not a high bar.

Show threadNuXCOM_90PercentNov 19, 2023

Trump is already talking about basically ethnically cleansing the us in the context of mass deportation of immigrants and other parts of his “platform”.

It is less “voting for the lesser of two genocides”. It is preventing the ones you can.

Show threadqueermunist she/herNov 19, 2023

And by threatening to withhold my vote I’m trying to prevent further genocide in Gaza. We’ve already forced Biden this far, we can force him farther if he realizes it could cost him the election.

So, no ceasefire, no votes.

By voting blue-no-matter-who, you’re just making Biden worse.

Show threadeoddc5

If Biden doesn’t get the ceasefire, you won’t vote for him

But who would you vote for, then?

No other candidates, Democrat or Republican, that run again Biden will be able to get the ceasefire, either.

So….you won’t vote at all?

Nov 19, 2023 at 5:01amWeb
Show threadqueermunist she/herNov 19, 2023

I’ll vote downticket for Democrats and write Hillary Clinton in to the Presidential spot.

Democrats in the House and Senate would rein in Trump and it’s still Her turn!!!

Show threadeoddc5Nov 19, 2023

Not against her as a candidate, but you know writing her in will just waste a vote.

There’s also no promise that if she were in the potus seat right now that she could definitively broker a ceasefire. We don’t know how any of it would work with anyone else.

Let’s give Biden a chance.

(Btw im all for voting for another deserving candidate who runs against him on the Democratic ticket)

Show threadChetzemokaNov 19, 2023
Imagine thinking Hillary Clinton would be less of a war hawk than Joe Biden.
Show threadPugJesusNov 19, 2023

Clinton. You'd vote for Clinton in this theoretical scenario as to who would get your vote in negotiating a ceasefire as president during this crisis.

The Hillary Clinton who has expressly opposed a ceasefire during this very crisis.

That Clinton.

Show threadqueermunist she/herNov 19, 2023
Problem?
Show threadPugJesusNov 19, 2023
No, actually, this resolves the ongoing question I had as to whether you were just ignorant, or expressly an enemy of democracy LARPing as a Very Concerned Citizen.
Show threadqueermunist she/herNov 19, 2023

No ceasefire, no votes.

If you’re so worried about Biden losing then maybe you should be pressuring him to call for a ceasefire?