StrikerGood question.
EatYouWellIt’s funny because the audit process for FedRAMP approval businesses is an absolute nightmare.
DominusOfMegadeusWhat’s a FedRAMP?
It’s the authorization a company has to have before their systems can access/store federal government data.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has the 800-53 which is a ~500 page document that’s just a list of controls that must be followed, and companies have to get audited once a year to make sure they complied with the controls the previous year.
The fun part is that most of the controls are worded super vaguely, and you’re at the mercy of the auditor’s interpretation of them.
I know one of the people who is an author of 800-53.
It was funny since an auditor was arguing with her. The auditor said I know this better than you do.
She replied back, I wrote it then showed her named in the credits.
That’s pretty great. I had to go full Karen on our auditors to speak to their supervisors because apparently the NIST definition of a term doesn’t matter if the auditor feels differently. And it was actually an unambiguous definition.
The worst part is the auditor still claimed they knew it better than the person who wrote it.
We got them removed as that’s a level of arrogance that can’t be tolerated.
What does this auditor gig pay?
I would assume six figures. They were an outside audit firm.
Which is funny because the audit process for FedRAMP compliance is a fucking nightmare.
theludditeThis might seem like a minor quibble, but that money doesn’t really come from taxpayers, and understanding what seems like a very technical financial thing is really important if you want to understand geopolitics in general. Here’s an except from the beginning of David Graeber’s Debt: the First 5,000 years, easily one of the single most interesting and enlightening books I’ve ever read:
Starting in the 1980s, the United States, which insisted on strict terms for the re- payment of Third World debt, itself accrued debts that easily dwarfed those of the entire Third World combined — mainly fueled by military spending. The U.S. foreign debt, though, takes the form of treasury bonds held by institutional investors in countries (Germany, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, the Gulf States) that are in most cases, effectively, U.S. military protectorates, most covered in U.S. bases full of arms and equipment paid for with that very deficit spending. This has changed a little now that China has gotten in on the game (China is a special case, for reasons that will be explained later), but not very much — even China finds that the fact it holds so many U.S. treasury bonds makes it to some degree beholden to U.S. interests, rather than the other way around.
So what is the status of all this money continually being funneled into the U.S. treasury? Are these loans? Or is it tribute? In the past, military powers that maintained hundreds of military bases outside their own home territory were ordinarily referred to as “empires,” and empires regularly demanded tribute from subject peoples. The U.S. government, of course, insists that it is not an empire — but one could easily make a case that the only reason it insists on treating these pay- ments as “loans” and not as “tribute” is precisely to deny the reality of what’s going on.
arguably the entire worth of the dollar as a currency comes from it being what taxpayers pay in, so yeah it kind of does come from taxpayers
also, money is fungible with other money, so "this stream of money doesn't come from there" doesn't make sense
The fungibility isn’t what’s at issue. The link between the money stream and the military is a system that can’t be understood separately. Thinking of it as taxpayer funded doesn’t make sense.
arguably the entire worth of the dollar as a currency comes from it being what taxpayers pay in, so yeah it kind of does come from taxpayers
I encourage you to read the book. It really changed my perspective on what value even is and what it means. I don’t think you’ll think this after reading it.
Thinking of it as taxpayer funded doesn’t make sense.
if you raise a billion dollars from taxpayers, and then raise a billion dollars from foreign debt, and you have a problem that you need to spend a billion dollars to fix, any dollar from either pile can go towards fixing that problem
this is like when red bull broke their spending cap in F1 and their response was to say that the overspend was from catering
I encourage you to read the book.
i can't read
arguably the entire worth of the dollar as a currency comes from it being what taxpayers pay in, so yeah it kind of does come from taxpayers
Not at all. The dollar’s valuation comes primarily from:
Its backing by a stable economic and governmental system and the projected power of the military controlled by that government
Its status at the global reserve currency
Tokyo, Lisbon, and Santiago don’t hold debt and equity in USD because Phil from Bozeman paid the IRS in that currency.
Its backing by a stable economic and governmental system
the only real backing the dollar has is that it's the only currency you can use to pay US taxes
1 is necessary for 2, so 2 isn't really a separate point
Tokyo, Lisbon, and Santiago don’t hold debt and equity in USD because Phil from Bozeman paid the IRS in that currency.
They hold debt and equity in USD because USD is stable because there is always a Phil from a Bozeman who needs to pay their taxes, so they money will always have value to somebody
So it’s not coming from US tax papers, this is saying? It comes from Japanese taxpayers, German taxpayers, South Korean tax papers, etc. on top of US tax papers.
That really does not change the situation. It still is a massive amount of money out of US pockets, and the rest is out of US allies’ citizen pockets. It also doesn’t change the failing to pass audits. It also doesn’t change their massive collection of known BS actions done in the past.
driving_croonerAlso dosen’t change the fact that they could pay for universal everything with that money.
𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙I think the point is that the money wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t meant for military spending
That’s the one.
What it does change is that the availability of the money and the military machine are linked. It’s not just that American taxpayers are footing the bill; it’s that our military machine is funded by tribute, which we pretend is “debt” that we’re totally going to pay back one day. It’s one system.
To be clear, it’s bad. I hate it. I just think it’s important to understand how the thing we oppose works.
The AssmanDamn, you really changed my perspective there. Thanks for sharing.
Read the book! It’s so good. It’s a tome about debt but it’s extremely readable and so, so interesting!
Already ordered it 😁
Shut up, Robert Greenwald! I’m busy shouting at people who believe different things than me!
One day the Pentagon will just drop warp drives and energy 2 out of nowhere and the world will be like “what?”
“Drop” is the wrong word. It’s going to be more like “hoard for 50 years until they discover energy 3 and mega-warp, then sell the concept rights for energy 2 and warp to aega corp”
Who will then sell it back to us. As the free market intended.
uisNo. They will only rent it to you.
memfreeBeen there, done that. It goes to other assets… and probably to the CIA for funding Regan’s Iran/Contra deals.
I mean, that’s like $6/year on my taxes. As long as I’m not getting nuked I really don’t care what they do with it.
800 billion dollars divided by 165 million taxpayers is $4,848. That’s if it were split evenly over all income brackets, which it is not, but unless your in the bottom tax bracket it’s probably more than 6$
Aren’t you taxed for everything you buy?
FireTowerThere isn’t a US federal sales tax. Most states have a sales tax but that goes to the state government not the federal government. New Hampshire and Oregon have zero state sales tax too (with some exceptions like eating out).
Generally speaking in America the Feds regulate foreign affairs and interstate matters. Intrastate (within one state) things are left up to that particular state.
And here’s your answer:
Assuming the guy with the cookies is Rupert Murdoch (~$18B wealth), who he kinda resembles, and the construction worker is the median American household (~$120k wealth), then the pile should be 150,000 cookies.
I’d estimate the visible part of the drawn pile, if it’s roughly a cylinder, at about (17 *3.14 * 20) 1,068 cookies. Presumably there’s more invisible below the table so maybe 2000 cookies. But still, it should be 75 times bigger.
Context for uninitiated and vision impaired:
In the background, a man is sat atop a pile of cookies behind two other men who are seated at a table. This man is Rupert Murdoch, a former Australian and now American; the owner of a large swathe of right-wing journalistic and entertainment media whose empire has contributed to the distrust and downfall of democracy across the Anglosphere.
Pictured on the left is a dark-skinned and bearded man sat looking despondently down at the empty table in front of him. Across from him is an Anglo-Australian man who is wearing a safety helmet and hi-vis vest - a nod to the working class of Australia - with a plate and a single cookie on it. Rupert is saying to the Anglo man: “Careful mate… that foreigner wants your cookie!”
It’s a fantastic political cartoon and a great nod to the way that right-wing media and politicians have consistently convinced significant amounts of working class people to turn their frustrations at their lack of share in capital towards immigrants and foreigners as opposed to the billionaires who hoard all the wealth.
Meanwhile people are concerned that the post office isn’t turning a profit.
Which has never made sense to me. It’s a government service. It’s not supposed to be profitable. It just needs to be affordable and reliable.
And yet they used to turn a profit. Until Republicans passed a law requiring them to prefund retirements for 75 years out with the USPS Fairness Act.
Fairness Act, which imposes this burden on the USPS while no other federal agency (or private business) is required to prefund retirement benefits…quite fair.
BigDaddySlimThis has been revoked recently, we no longer are required to prefund the plan. One good thing DeJoy has actually done.
It hasn’t been beneficial in terms of us getting a raise or anything since there hasn’t been a contract with the NALC in almost 2 years now but I’m sure it shows in the now 66¢ cost of a stamp (price may be more by the time I press send on this message).
a law requiring them to prefund retirements for 75 years out with the USPS Fairness Act
If I’m reading this article (or this one) correctly the USPS Fairness Act was the thing that stopped the need to prefund retirements. The one you’re thinking of is apparently called the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act.
“People” aren’t. It’s regressives that are trying to disenfranchise mail in voters. Then they put a regressive in charge of the USPS who is trying to run it into the ground so they can be like “oh gosh look how bad it is!”
Republicans want to privatize every public work. USPS isn’t supposed to turn a profit. It’s supposed to be a public good that is sold at cost so we all benefit. It used to be subsidized.
Republicans want to turn it into a new industry a la UPS, FedEx, etc, so it’d cost way more to send a letter. The love of money is the root of all evil. It’s also the root of the Republican party.
For anyone interested in the history of that ideology and its consequences, Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine is great.
The postal service is CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED.
Eliminating it requires a Constitutional convention
We’re all outraged but theres no customer service complaint phone number for the black hole that all of our taxpayer dollars disappear into
Just call 911. I’m sure they’ll help get you sorted.
Fore!
Aw you didn’t need to write down that phone number for us. Everyone has that memorized. So easy. 😆
SirStumpsWe need the Karen’s to combine their might and talk the the Mega Manager.
I’m scared it might work. Or excited. Can they talk the Mega Manager into bunker-penetrating bombs to get Putin?
The Karen Bunker Buster is a secret weapon only the Elder Karen’s can nag enough to summon.
☂️-Probably used to thrown million dollar bombs on countries like mine
I’ll have you know they’re fifty thousand dollar bombs, inflated to million dollar bombs because the taxpayer is paying
RememberTheApollo_But it’s unpatriotic to question spending dropping multi million dollar bombs and using expensive tech to wage war in impoverished countries.
Yes. Also it’s anti-Semitic to object to genocide.
Anytime a journalist thinks about covering this they probably die in a tragic accident suddenly.
Yeah, by shooting themselves twice in the back of the head.
Those crazy journalists.
“ He fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets.”
Do you really want to know what it takes to do and keep our borders safe? horrible acts, espionage and targeted strikes. You uhh see any mission reports from the Navy SEALs any time? no. you don’t want to know they are murdering people. i dont. but they do and are. and that costs money. Dirty Deeds are not done dirt cheap.