RmDebArc_5Useless messenger
nottheengineerIsn’t the web version a full client that works without a phone nearby nowadays?
RichardYes, but no video calls, because apparently a browser doesnt have microhphone and speaker support
spezWhatsapp does their calls over voIP anyways right?
kratoz29works without a phone nearby nowadays?
Last time I checked it kicked me out for no reason… But in a nutshell yes.
HubiI wouldn’t install it on my system in any case.
doofer_nameSame. No sane linux user should.
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Und: Hubi ist Linux Nutzer konfirmiert. - 2023, koloriert
Element one via bridges and run WhatsApp on an old phone - that’s the most I will allow an app from meta in my enviroment
miss_brainfartBut please tell your contacts that you’re using bridges, if you haven’t already.
You are effectively giving away encryption keys to a third party, since those messages need to be decrypted and re-encrypted mid-transit.
Everyone who is part of the chats you use bridges with deserves to know about that fact, at least.
I don’t like WhatsApp, but some people simply refuse to use anything else (“better”) and the web clients can bridge the gap but it’s extremely annoying not being able to answer a call with a person you are texting
Easy, I don’t talk to such people. They can have my email or phone number if truly necessary. Yes, same for family or work, just not using Meta products for communication. Surprisingly enough people do understand.
im sorry i broke the code“Easy, I don’t talk to such people”
so you don’t talk to most people, outside of coworkers, family and other weirdos
T. Care about privacy, also care about having a social life without being an annoying weirdo
It’s called having standards.
OK provocation aside yes, you actually have to stand for what you believe in. For some people it means not going to a meat restaurants, for others, like me, it means no accepted a WhatsApp chat or a Google Drive share. You also do that but because it’s either so ingrained or accepted you do not even notice anymore. You standards might not be mine but if neither of us do push back, then we as a society go backward IMHO. So… yes it means my circle of acquaintances is not the most inclusive but I do accept boundaries and if it means someone is toxic according to my perspective, they are out, simple.
You can install an apps which basically display the WhatsApp webpage like an app, if you use flathub at least
AndrewYou forgot about Matrix clients (and servers).
You shouldn’t use this app in the first place. It had many data breaches and it copy everything from Telegram (maybe everyone copies, but I don’t use other apps). I only mainly use Telegram and Matrix.
It’s impossible to convince that to friends and family. In my country everyone use WhatsApp as primary messaging app . It’s kind of like iMessage situation in US
wingsfortheirsmilesI feel that, a good chunk of my friends are on Signal thankfully but all of my family still use WhatsApp
iMessage For My Blue Friends, Signal For My Green Friends
For me it’s the other way around :/
It’s nice that a lot of my surroundings have finally jumped to Telegram. Previously it was Viber (bleh). But it’s much hard to go to Matrix because it’s much much less feature rich and less polished then Telegram. I can easily use it as a basic text messenger, but that’s about it. So Telegram is a solid middle ground. Can’t wait for the multi server Matrix accounts.
pewgar_seemsimandroidim fine with my family using viber tbh since it isn’t owned by Facebook or Amazon
Use it in matrix? Or Element One?
My MF smartwatch has WhatsApp but still no Linux version.
Flatpak has WhatsApp for Linux.
It’s just WhatsApp web as an app
That’s exactly what a “desktop” client would be anyway: a crappy, memory hogging electron app.
But WhatsApp have a really good app on windows which can attend calls and stuff . I think recently in Mac too . I’m using WhatsApp inside waydroid container in Linux so that I can at least attend calls
But it spoofs the user agent as a Mac because WhatsApp blocks Linux on the web
𝕃𝕒𝕞𝕓What? My WhatsApp works normally on my Firefox on Arch.
Nice to know they changed it then
Technically you could run an Android container on Linux like with Waydroid and get WhatsApp too, it’s just that there’ll probably be more Android users
Meanwhile in the US and Canada: So, I’ll just send an SMS, k?
Kyoyeou (Ki jəʊ juː)Also in the US: Blue SmS right?
Teenagers are the only ones who care about that
I think a lot of tech-savvy adults care about E2E on blue iMessage bubbles. I won’t talk about sensitive information via green, that’s all going to signal.
Imma burst your bubble (pun intended) but that’s such a small part of the population and even such a small part of the tech savvy population that I don’t think it’s much of an argument.
That’s fair! I’m just going by my own experiences. But I have a lot of tech-savvy friends and acquaintances and even many non-tech-savvy mates are into Signal vs SMS because it’s secure, has great audio/video chat, and it’s not owned by shudders Facebook. I personally do not touch any google or Facebook products or services.
Apple gives it funny colours? Google messages just change saturation. Also for some reason I can’t send RCS (and e2e encrypted) messages to my relatives with apple phones. But I got most of them to use Signal :>
Lolors17I just recently read something about, that apple needs to use RCS by the end of 2023.
I actually heard the same on techlinked today, but apparently apple doesn’t seem to be interested in e2e encryption for their RCS messages.
FranklinIsn’t end to end an encryption broken if any of the clients use the feature to send from Mac OS
DAE Apple bad?!?!?!!!1
This just comes off as defensive and needy. I’m not even sure if that’s the case, I was just raising a concern if that was a real reason for them using it
khannieweb.whatsapp.com works really well
Wrappers are available as snaps/flatpaks
alldreadmeNone of which support voice/video calls. Also the native app on windows is fast af
There are plenty of desktop wrappers available for the Web version. I don’t use WhatsApp often but from my experience it seems fairly similar to the Windows desktop app
Main problem is that it doesn’t have voice and video calls there.
Ah fair enough, I can see how that’d be an issue
Afaik they created a Windows client that’s native sort of recently and I’m pretty sure it’s a better experience than the web version because that’s one slow as hell to initially load for me.
108WhatsApp is owned by Meta right?
TheLowestStoneNot sure why anyone would use it. I certainly wouldn't.
Che BananaCouple reasons:
WhatsApp was its own company, took advantage of an open market in EU where SMS (and “international” phone calls?) were extra rate charges on mobile phones. Once every one got accustomed to using whatsapp Meta took it over and now we’re stuck with it.
To communicate with anyone outside of the US, where it is extremely popular and the main interaction with many businesses as well.
It’s almost impossible not to sadly, at least if you want to reach everybody in ypur contacts… It was the first popular messaging app here and inertia prevents people from moving to better alternatives now.
Here almost everybody uses Viber or Messenger (I know Messenger’s also Meta)
viber > anything owned by facebool
Threema > anything owned by giant corporations