Libertarian Party Embraces Remorseless QAnon Shaman’s Run for Office

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Libertarian Party Embraces Remorseless QAnon Shaman’s Run for Office - Lemmy.World

Remember. He is a felon. That means he cannot vote in an election, but he absolutely can be elected to created laws. It's so weird thinking about that out loud.

Actually? He served in the military (US navy,) and took an oath to defend and uphold the constitution,

The 14th absolutely applies, and he is ineligible to hold any public office - including city-level positions.

Of course, we want him to be ineligible. Yet, there’s zero legal authority that has ruled him ineligible.

Keep dreaming that it’ll happen. We’re truly in the “Twilight Zone” of retardedville.

The constitution has zero legal authority.

Huh. TIL! Edit: 1, 2, 3.

The constitution is the single highest legal authority in the US. No law may be written violating it. It sets the legal basis for the existence of the US government, describes the nature of how it is to be run, and who is eligible to hold office. It esposues rights and processes.

the entire basis of the legal system depends on the us constitution, and it’s amendments, both as the guiderails and the source of authority. So when the 14th amendment, section 3 says that a person who having previously taken an oath to defend the constitution and then leads an insurrection is ineligible; they’re ineligible. There’s really no mincing words on that one.

Unless perhaps, you’re arguing that the insurrection on jan 6 wasn’t in fact, an insurrection. (perhaps you suggest they were just… tourists?). Even though their stated goal was to disrupt and stop the lawful proceedings of congress- specifically counting the votes as cast by the electoral college.

Jacob Chansley served in the US navy, therefore he’s taken an oath to defend the constitution. he particapted (most… LARPishly…) in the jan 6 insurrection.

Law of the United States - Wikipedia

we are seeing this be ignored in real time
Trump to remain on Michigan ballot after judge rejects another 14th Amendment challenge

A Michigan judge on Tuesday dismissed a lawsuit that tried to use the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban” to remove Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 ballot.

CNN

No, we’re not.

The prohibition is from holding office, not from running for an election. The primary ballots all have their own state level rules. And I’m pretty sure so are the main elections, too. It isn’t until he tries to take office that it encroaches, is my interpretation.

He should be removed, because he can’t take office and his name is a waste of time, but… Nobody that matters listens to me.

I’m sorry but your interpretation doesn’t make any sense to me. We should let him run and then if he wins just say nah?

I agree. He shouldn’t be. But that doesn’t mean lawyers and judges agree.

the ballots and election process are largely left to the states. (Baring violations of the CRA, etc,)

Keep in mind, at the moment, it’s state supreme courts and their rules they’re voting on (as deciddd by MN Supreme Court , recently. The judge made a very wink-wink-hint-hint note in his ruling saying it “may” not be the same case in the main election)

I think i understand now, you’re saying the 14th can’t apply to state races, only the resultant federal outcome? that’s interesting i hadn’t considered it like that