Nothing Phone builds a blue bubble iMessage bridge while Google and Apple fight over RCS

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Nothing Phone builds a blue bubble iMessage bridge while Google and Apple fight over RCS - Lemmy.World

I predict one of two outcomes once Apple becomes aware of this. Either they’ll modify the iMessage protocol to break Nothing Phones compatibility, or they’ll sue Nothing Phone for violating some kind of IP law. Apple absolutely wants to maintain their walled garden and letting a non-Apple product transparently interact on equal footing with Apple products runs counter to that.

The messaging is provided by a third party who is dedicated to working on their iMessage compatibility. Apple has no reason to stop this because this is a good move for them in the larger battle between mobile messaging standards.

Google owns Jibe, the company behind RCS messaging found on all Android phones and an emerging, competent product from the only game in town that can compete with Apple. Google has decided to take this to the government level and push for a unified phone messaging standard, normally a good thing, but people their own RCS solution.

Apple is pushing iMessage as a protest against Google and their inevitable lawsuit to conform with RCS adoption. Android may win unless Apple shows it has parity and provides a non-legislative option: if enough people use iMessage then governments don’t have to make any laws or enforce changes. The company Nothing is using iMessage, which helps Apple prove there is both a significant user base, which would cause a burden on Apple and it’s customers to change, and there is no monopoly on iMessage or messaging in general. So if enough people use iMessage, Apple sees it as a good thing.

RCS is not a Google product, see en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSMA

Apple has been pushing iMessage for quite some time, but they want to keep it just to their platform and have made no attempt to make it open to other users. That’s Apples way and it’s not as a “protest” to Google lol

That’s like saying they made the lightning port as a protest to USB standards, nah they just want their proprietary shit.

GSMA - Wikipedia

That’s like saying they made the lightning port as a protest to USB standards, nah they just want their proprietary shit.

They wanted a new, compact, durable, reversible plug for their mobile devices. There was no industry-standard option that met their requirements, so they made their own. If USB-C had existed at the time, they would have used it (though as a physical connector, Lightning is still just plain better).

I don’t buy this argument at all, they could have contributed towards a combined connector with the usb-if, but instead they made their own proprietary connector.
They did contribute towards usb c. And lightning came out years before c did. They had promised to only switch connectors once a decade because people got so mad about the switch from the thirty pin to the lightning.
Source for them contributing towards USBC prior to implementing lightning port?
Weird request when USB-C was released 2 years after lightning.
That’s not a weird request at all, they could have contributed to the USBC protocol before it released, that’s… How it works you know.
You’re asking for proof they contributed before an arbitrary date. Can you provide a list of everyone other than Apple who contributed before 2012?
We can look at the press release announcing USBC from 2013 where Apple isn’t mentioned at all… studylib.net/…/usb-type-c-press-release-from-2013
USB Type-C press release from 2013

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Those are two completely different lists. One is “the promoter group” and the other is “everyone involved” which are in no way equivalent. It’s like the opening credits on a movie, vs the closing credits. One of the two is inherently going to be more detailed.
That’s true, but if Apple was heavily invested at the time, you’d think they’d show up in the “opening credits” :p

Apple has been a member of the USB-IF (the group that creates USB specs) since at least 2009. loopinsight.com/…/palm-reports-apple-to-the-usb-i…

what we believe is improper use of the Vendor ID number by another member,” said Palm spokeswoman Lynn Fox.

engadget.com/2009-07-24-palm-complains-about-appl…

macrumors.com/…/palm-reports-apple-to-usb-complia…

Palm reports Apple to the USB Implementers Forum

Palm didn't wait for Apple to take the next step in its ongoing battle to have the Pre sync with iTunes.

Really my point was just that Apple designed the lightning connector instead of working collaboratively toward a USBc-like standard
They did work collaboratively towards a standard. They just also in parallel worked on their own project, because they know standards can take an indefinite amount of time, so it could have been a decade to get USB C fleshed out, while they had already been working on Lightning in the background.