If linux distributions were tools.
If linux distributions were tools.
But what makes ubuntu better as a first distro than mint or fedora? It installs snaps even when you specifically invoke apt, a new user who doesn’t understand the messages will press yes, see that it seemed to work and have issues later that can scare them away from linux.
What I’m trying to say is that we should bash the people still recommending ubuntu.
Eh. Using Ubuntu is nothing like having a mental or physical handicap, or having fallen and gotten knocked down/pushed down.
My issue with Ubuntu is that there’s better distros- even for newbs coming from windows for the first time. The sole argument for Ubuntu is the first reason not to use it. People are installing it because they want something different than windows, after all, and canonical makes the same critical error (IMO) that MS makes: it assumes their users are stupid.
To be honest, I grew up in red hat; I remember trying Ubuntu when it first came out, being told how awesome it was. I found it to be infuriating and horrible. And it has always been so. To me, it’s popularity seems derived more from marketing than from merit.
In the spirit of bashing Ubuntu, I’d like to propose we stick with the swiss army knife. But it’s one of those strange Kickstarter projects where it’s entirely controlled by an unnecessary phone app.
Arch being something that requires some research and prep beforehand makes sense through. As well as having fans who will swear that is actually quite enjoyable if you try it.
No bashing Ubuntu!
Maybe it’s time for you to move on to gentoo:
With all the Ubuntu bashing. It’s the only Linux image I have used for my server. Also used Kali and a bunch of others on an old laptop.
Is Ubuntu server bad or does it just hold your hand too much. I have everything running in docker and manage that from a web gui.
I’m personally not a fan of their approach to Snaps and hard pushing their snap store.
Apt works just fine and if we want sandboxed apps, we could choose to install flatpaks.
It’s not that it’s bad on a server, it’s just that something like Debian with a couple tools on top gets you to the same place with less resources.
For a home server, that reduction in overhead can mean squeezing out a few more services on a single box.
I’d challenge that asking what do you really need above base Debian?
I’ve got a script to set up my debian servers and it doesn’t include much beyond adding docker, assigning users to groups, and adding a couple tools (just looked them up: sudo ca-certificates curl gnupg ufw).
I saw a significant decrease in idle CPU and RAM load by switching from Ubuntu-server to Debian Bookworm + those tools.