ElCanutYes but self-defense
Same bullshit logic that helped many support the genocide of those “barbaric” Native Americans because some actually had the gall to attack their colonial invaders.
WashedOverI wonder how few will draw some of the parallels of the colonial expansion in Australia and the West in general.
I love the types that say others should go back to where they come from ignoring their parents and grandparents were not that far removed from the boat that brought them here.
Then they don’t want to acknowledge that these groups were probably not that thrilled at being slaughtered and their kids taken away from them to make way for their colonial ancestors.
It’s a amazing trait to me that humans can hold such diabolically opposed ideas as the same truths for them.
Eurasian empires have been shaped by this for millenia. Nomadic horse tribes harass existing empire until it starts to crumble. Tribes annex land and establish new empire/ruling class and give up the nomadic lifestyle. New nomadic horse tribes show up and start harassing. Rulers who are only 1 or 2 generations removed from living a nomadic lifestyle and conquering call them barbarians and uncivilized for their brutality. New horse tribes topple empire, rinse and repeat.
To list a few: Mongols, Turks, Huns, Scythians… It was like a revolving door until gunpowder showed up.
Each generation completely ignoring the atrocities of their forebears while also framing their successors as monsters. Tale as old as time.
Some would point out the same before the Colonials came too. In the other examples it was all out war with promises of more, not treaties ignored when it became inconvenient or as bait to disarm.
There were also commitments made that are only starting to be honoured in some cases today.
It’s the atrocities from the higher standards of the “right God” Fearing and “more civilized” peoples that came to into replace everyone. There was no honour in it which was supposedly the basis of some of these societies They were supposed to be better often were not even for their times.
Unfortunately that’s a tale as old as time too…
Justifying current atrocities by pointing to previous atrocities misses the point.
The point is at some point it should stop. Yes, America and Australia and Europe and everywhere commit genocide, committed atrocities that are now considered war crimes, but responding to current calls for it to stop by making some attempted Gotcha at perceived hypocrisy is worse than saying nothing.
s_sAfter the Bronze age collapse, the nomadic Hebi-ru people came out of the wilderness and conquered the Cannanite people who no longer had the protection of the Egyptian Empire.
I wonder how few will draw some of the parallels of the colonial expansion in Australia and the West in general.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the western countries defending Israel start using that excuse themselves, once all the others fall apart
Oh and just checking, did you mean diabolically (evilly) or diametrically (opposite) opposed? Either works just wondering
I kind of mean both. Is there a word that works for that?
Diabotricelly.
People also over-emphasize the importance of being born here.
What are your thoughts on colonial expansion by the way? Is it wrong under any circumstance?
Yes. That land should be returned to the Canaanites.
…wait
Great! Let’s create a three-state solution when they show up.
In the meantime, how about we have some common sense and love for others? A two-state solution is what’s needed, and the Palestinians have proven time and time again that they are not willing to have a fair, reasonable two-state solution. So that leaves violent enforcement by the UN.
Until that happens, there will not be any peace in the Middle East.
Which was started by the white people going into the native villages and slaughtering people over a misunderstanding about property rights.
the us has always been a shit hole
The misunderstanding being that “your stuff is ours, actually”
It wasn’t even that. The fucker wanted to tax the natives.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieft's_War
The wretch of capitalism is at the heart of this country. It blood has always been black.
Not really the same. The natives would have to have the attitude of genocideing the colonizers
GnuLinuxDudeI have seen numerous examples of Israeli officials declaring genocidal intent of all Palestinians. I haven’t seen the reverse.
Ahhh a satire account. Hilarious keep up the good work
Hamas regularly admits they want to eliminate Israel is why it’s satire. Y’all are so thick and stuck on one train of thought
Israel in its current form should be eliminated. It’s an apartheid state. Until it changes by enfranchising the Palestinians that it has trapped in open air prisons (Gaza, West Bank) it has no right to carry on. I will never support an ethnostate that places the supremacy of one ethnicity over another. If we time traveled back would you say that apartheid South Africa deserved to continue as it was? Rhodesia?
It’s funny that you are wasting time defending Israel with that kind of defense. “Hamas regularly admits” – show me where? Here? Oops, that was just some of the many documented statements from Israeli officials declaring their genocidal intent. You know, the thing that is actually happening right now considering Israel has shut off food, water, electricity, and fuel into Gaza. When Netenyahu compares Palestinians to Amalek he is telling his hardcore right wing faction a very clear message. Maybe you didn’t understand it? Or, a worse thought, maybe you understand it perfectly and pretend otherwise?
Three one Israel apologized for and fired the official? There are certainly fake ones but there are a few real ones Israel has admitted to.
Hamas routinely declares they want to wipe out Israel is why it’s satire
Yeah aside from the official admitting it wasn’t.