EggyheadNov 12, 2023

Unpopular opinion: Super Mario Bros. Wonder’s multiplayer is a disappointment.

I got this game to play with my wife and her family. The characters are adorable, the levels are full of charm, the music is outstanding, and the platforming is really tight....

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Unpopular opinion: Super Mario Bros. Wonder’s multiplayer is a disappointment. - nintendo - kbin.social

I got this game to play with my wife and her family. The characters are adorable, the levels are full of charm, the music is outstanding, and the platforming is really tight....

Show threadSoggyNov 13, 2023
Of course it is, Nintendo doesn’t know how to properly integrate multi-player. Especially online. Sometimes they accidentally do an okay job, and there was a while where the handheld consoles did some cool stuff but some perverts on Pictochat scared them so bad you can’t even talk to your friends in Smash Bros.
Show threadecho64

some perverts on Pictochat scared them so bad

let’s not downplay what actually happened there. what Nintendo did in response was the correct decision. paedophiles are much more than “some perverts”

Nov 13, 2023 at 2:23pmWeb
Show threadporyNov 15, 2023

The correct response to pedos or whatever on your social service is moderating your social service. Every service has pedos and nazis until they’re sufficiently discouraged by being banned and reported to authorities often enough.

Nintendo’s response was “welp, we tried. Guess there’s no way at all to let people meet each other and socialize through our games, because any form of communication can also be used for exposing children to sexual predators”

Show threadecho64Nov 15, 2023

You want nintendo to review every single message sent in every language worldwide? All for the sake of a silly messaging platform no one needed?

I realize that won’t happen, and that we don’t need to send each other drawings via our nintedo system, I think it’s a good thing to shut down avenues that give pedophiles direct access to children don’t you?

Show threadEggyheadNov 15, 2023
How do other platforms, such as Sony, steam, discord, Microsoft, etc handle such things? Maybe we need to shut down those things too, eh? Can’t be too safe for the children!
Show threadecho64Nov 15, 2023

Parental controls that functionally block the capability to communicate, or they just don’t, and kids get abused.

Suppose a few molested kids is a price worth paying for you!

Show threadEggyheadNov 16, 2023

Your logic:
Video game message boards = kids getting molested and nothing else.

I feel sorry for you.

Show threadecho64Nov 16, 2023
No, no, there were kids getting molested and also other things. I don’t think that a few kids getting molested is worth being able to send stupid drawings to each other. How about you? Do you think a few kids getting molested is worth it, so you can do that? Is there a number of kids that make you say oh okay that’s too many kids being molested ?
Show threadEggyheadNov 16, 2023
No I don’t think it’s worth it at all. Actually, do you think being able to drive to work is worth kids being run over as well? I don’t. Maybe car manufacturers should stop selling cars. Unless of course you think it’s okay for children to get run over. Surely you don’t. On that front, maybe we should close down playgrounds, unless you think it’s okay for children to get molested, because that happens in playgrounds as well. Surely you’re not okay with children being molested in playgrounds so you shouldn’t be okay with playgrounds altogether. This is how sense is made!
Show threadecho64Nov 16, 2023

if there is a playground that molesters use to molest children, i 100% guarantee that the playground gets shut down.

I’m glad we agree that there is a systematic problem with people killing children with cars though, i agree we should be getting rid of cars from pedestrian areas. good we agree.

Show threadEggyheadNov 16, 2023
Why stop at cars? Or even pedestrian areas? Get rid of busses, scooters, skateboards, trains, airplanes! They all put children at risk. Better to take things away from everyone else than just to actually do something to fight the offenders!
Show threadecho64Nov 16, 2023

i can barely see the goalposts at this point my dude. but yes if children are being molested we should consider, how many children are worth being molested for this thing to continue.

you’re not gonna change my mind on that, and you’re viewpoint seems to be that there is an acceptable amount of molested children so that you can send people drawings on a 3DS. cool, we very much disagree. my acceptable number is 0.

Show threadEggyheadNov 16, 2023
I’m coming off as silly because the whole premise is silly. I’m just exaggerating it to make my point. Simple moderation would have solved the problem like it does anywhere else, but instead Nintendo opted for the lazy route and just nuked the whole thing for everybody. I never cared about picto-chat either way, I just think that approach is beyond stupid.
Show threadporyNov 22, 2023
Every method of communication known to man short of identity verified channels is a potential direct route of communication from a child to a pedophile. No, I don’t think that Lemmy, Discord, Reddit, Xbox Live, PSN, Steam, Twitter, Tumblr, XMPP, Signal, 4chan, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Messenger, SMS, or IRC should be shut down because of that potential abuse case, and I don’t think that Nintendo should avoid a decent friending/communication infrastructure because of it. And I’ve been using some of those services since i was a child.