mwguyNov 8, 2023

'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'

https://infosec.pub/post/4648199

'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours' - Infosec.Pub

By Alice Cuddy BBC News, Jerusalem — The call to Mahmoud Shaheen came at dawn. It was Thursday 19 October at about 06:30, and Israel had been bombing Gaza for 12 days straight. He’d been in his third-floor, three-bedroom flat in al-Zahra, a middle-class area in the north of the Gaza Strip. Until now, it had been largely untouched by air strikes. He’d heard a rising clamour outside. People were screaming. “You need to escape,” somebody in the street shouted, “because they will bomb the towers”.

Show threadRiskNov 8, 2023

Everytime I read an article like this, my immediate reaction is posting a comment expressing my disgust with the Israeli State’s actions and everytime I hesitate because I don’t want to suffer the inevitable wave of people defending the Israeli State’s actions as somehow justifiable because Hamas did something vile first.

It’s a continuing cycle of violence and the Israeli State holds a humongous power advantage. They don’t use that power disparity to deescalate and integrate the Palestinian people to prevent Hamas from having support. Instead they do shit like this where they drive Palestinians straight into Hamas’ hands, because the Palestinian people are given no other option to turn to.

Show threaddontcarebear Nov 8, 2023
I feel the same way here (Lemmy) because I support Israel. Funny, how being a minority works.
Show threadVaultBoyNewVegasNov 8, 2023
Poor fucking you. Could try having some sympathy for the kids killed in a paediatric hospital in the last week.
Show threaddontcarebear Nov 8, 2023

I corrected myself. You are not a minority in the world, as I don’t know the numbers and there are clearly a lot of sympathizers of the Palestinian cause in England, Spain, France and the US. I don’t even know what is going on in the rest of the world.

I can only empathize with the writer’s original emotion of feeling like a persecuted minority.

Show threadericNov 8, 2023
You’d think as an oppressed minority in the world, you’d be more outraged at Israel for their continued oppression of Palestinians. I know plenty of other Jews that feel this way.
Show threaddontcarebear Nov 8, 2023

Who says I don’t? Israel should definitely stop the settlements, push to join the Palestinians into the abrahamic accords, do what they can to bring actual peace instead of placating their religious fanatics for an easy vote.

I said I support Israel. In which I meant that I support Israel’s fight against Hamas. Yes, that entails hurting civilians. Yes, that is a sad state of affairs.

Show threaderic
Almost no one out there is supporting Hamas, and if you unilaterally support Israel, you are anti-Palestinian. The fact that you think fighting Hamas includes indiscriminately bombing civilians shows you are in support of the ongoing genocide of an ethnic minority. And to call yourself a minority to try to gain sympathy is pathetic at best. The KKK is also a minority, so by your logic, we should all try to sympathize with their plight.
Nov 8, 2023 at 7:40pmWeb
Show threaddontcarebear Nov 8, 2023

Almost no one out there is supporting Hamas, and if you unilaterally support Israel, you are anti-Palestinian.

You are willfully ignoring my last comment to give your strawman some hay.

The fact that you think fighting Hamas includes indiscriminately bombing civilians shows you are in support of the ongoing genocide of an ethnic

minority Strawman, I never said that the IDF should or is bombing indiscriminately. That is YOUR belief and you’re forcing it upon my words.

And to call yourself a minority to try to gain sympathy is pathetic at best.

Yet another misunderstanding. I didn’t say that to garner sympathy. I said that to make the point that this situation is just a classical case of the Majority’s tyranny. Granted, @risk suffered it worse, but the situation is just two sides of the same coin except I hang around in Lemmy and he hangs around in News websites.

The KKK is also a minority, so by your logic, we should all try to sympathize with their plight. Oh look, it’s your favorite rhetorical instrument. A strawman.

Show threadericNov 8, 2023

Bombing refugee camps and hospitals is not indiscriminate. Got it. Those were legitimate military topics. Got it.

Now kindly fuck off.