steventhedevHamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times to destroy Israel
They’re not doing their supporters any favours with these sort of comments lol
NOT_RICKIt’s easy to support Palestinian statehood. Anyone that supports Hamas is a moron.
Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions
Governing is a generous term
Israel controls the borders
how can Hamas do this
Yes Egypt also doesn’t exists
it really is amazing how all the Hamas supporters simply refuse to acknowledge this one simple fact
Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn’t matter if they do a good job of it or not.
How do you figure?
They are the de facto (and kind of de jure…) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates.
If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be “heroes”. And they aren’t going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people.
They were also very unpopular before Oct 7 and I doubt they’ve gotten any more popular since then.
Popularity doesn’t really matter when they were, and are, the power in charge in Gaza.
And “popularity” will go through the roof if, somehow, they are the ones that get the Israeli Government to stop being genocidal dicks and actually make concessions… by raping and murdering Israeli, German, and UK citizens?
It seems to me that Hamas “governs” Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza “govern” the people they extort.
R0cket_M00seDidn’t the Palestinian people vote them in?
Yes, democracy exists until we don’t like it
What kind of democracy holds only a single election in 2006 and then no others?
Venezuela for starters
Flying SquidVenezuela is literally in the middle of an election year.
Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn’t even been born.
My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They’re obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they’re the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area.
There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety.
At one time, yes, but I don’t think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans.
Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there’s better ways to point this out.
How long before you expect a population to be responsible for their country?
When their “leaders” don’t represent them? Never.
I don’t blame North Koreans for being in a dictatorship, why would I blame Palestinians?
Like over a decade ago but they havent held elections since. I’ve seen countering articles saying Hamas has overwhelming support by the people, vs actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them. So who knows. Fog of war and all that.
Tavarinactually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them
Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is.
HM King Charles III DG FDThere is also the West Bank, however.
Yes, though most of the stuff is about Gaza
The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel.
Unfortunately
I was about to say, who’s out there supporting hamas
You’d be surprised, they’re out there
The tankies are all over it, actually.
That’s it. I’m never voting for a tankie again.
Fucking deranged tankies man, their Lord and Savior Hasan Abi has been going off about how “baby settlers” are valid military targets. These people yearn to live under a propaganda-military dictatorship.
It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in.
You’ve not been in these threads for very long, have you?
Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound
Weird that as a Jew who is pretty damn sensitive to antisemitism since I faced a lot of it growing up in religious Indiana, I haven’t noticed this support for antisemitic terrorists on Lemmy. I’ve seen a lot of support for innocent people being slaughtered because of Israel’s response to antisemitic terrorists, but that’s a separate issue.
People in the U.S. protested the war in Afghanistan. Does that mean they supported Al Qaeda? Because this is some real “you’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists” thinking from my perspective.
Tankies? The same people supporting Russia, China, and other brutalist regimes…
They’re the same picture.