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I think we’d agree that no right-thinking human being of #faith would send a rocket into a refugeee camp, anywhere.
@paul @Bellingcat
I say that the first and closest victims of Hamas are the Palestinian people, then their neighbors.
I think that history doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme.
Mahatma Gandhi and Yitzhak Rabin were assassinated by ideologues for similar reasons and partition, religion, and ethnic differences over territory shared for millennia carries forward challenges.
I think we choose to ignore lessons and that hurt people hurt people.
@paninid There's a practical challenge here. If Israel doesn't remove Hamas' ability to continue operating in Gaza, the Palestinians in Gaza will continue to be used as shields for this and other terrorist organizations in Gaza.
To add to that, Israel will continue to be attacked by these terrorist groups and could face an attack that is worse than the one they launched on the 7th of October.
Eradicating Hamas (as much as possible) is in both the Palestinians’ and Israelis’ interests.
@paul
Is there a lot of available evidence that defeating radicalized terrorists by violence achieves a sustainable peace? Does killing gangmembers make Chicago safer?
From what I understand, some factions of Israel want to eradicate Palestinians and some factions of Arabs want to eradicate Israel.
“neither are leaving the land, and that they have to find a way toward shared co-existence”
@paninid Thankfully those Israeli factions don't represent the majority of Israelis who just want to live in peace with our neighbours. Unfortunately those extremists have outsized support in o9ur current government. I'm hopeful that this government won't survive long after this war.
As for the risk of radicalizing more people, we have to take that risk. We have to make it clear that attacking us like this will have devastating consequences for the attackers so they don't try this again.
@paul
Traumatized children with experiences during formative years do not forget them easily.
Family with nothing to lose become even more radicalized, like YouTube recommendations, but with explosions.
Hurt people hurt people.
@paninid You're forgetting how the educational system in Gaza teaches their kids to hate Israelis, and indoctrinates them.
What do you suggest as a solution? To badly paraphrase a quote attributed to Golda Meir: “If Hamas lays down its arms, we will have peace. If Israel lays down its arms, Israel will be destroyed”.
Hamas' attacks on 7 October are a clear demonstration of what they will do if we stop fighting. They are not interested in negotiation. Only to kill Jews.
@paul
It’s been like this since 1967, I imagine, yes?
The easy solution is the one that the faction with bloodlust cannot accept and Rabin paid for it with his life.