This view of the rooftops of Gaza shows very clearly, that #israel is making a precise choice of targets, and not bombing the city into a "parking lot".
@chrisschmitz in such a densely packed area I don't think it's gonna make it any easier to not hit civilians

@Fishbed

There are no civilians.

@chrisschmitz what does this mean?
@Fishbed They had three weeks to leave.
Close to a Million people left Gaza city.
Those who chose to stay, are with Hamas, no matter how they portray themselves as part of Hamas PR.

@chrisschmitz You can't expect everyone to be able to escape a crowded city in 3 weeks, especially when a lot of them were coerced by Hamas to stay and a lot of others were (rightfully) skeptical of their ability to fulfill needs when they left, especially since humanitarian aid has been so scarce and looting has taken place just to secure it.

To simplify the decision on one's morality and affiliation to "They're part of Hamas, kill em" based simply on where they are is stupid

@Fishbed

There is no hard line in this conflict, as palestinian "civilians" change their role to what they pleases.

If they are armed, near unarmed israeli civilians, they are clearly with hamas, if idf is approaching, they are "civilians"

You are just god damn naive, or a terrorist supporter.

@chrisschmitz You're taking a pretty hard line by saying they don't exist. To say everyone still in North Gaza is Hamas-affiliated is to sentence thousands of innocents to death on flimsy charges. To justify indiscriminate bombing in lieu of a ground invasion on that basis is outrageous.

The IDF has men who signed themselves up to die for their country, and, unlike Harris of '45, they have the ability to invade from the ground. Instead they sacrifice Civilians to that end.

@Fishbed

Hamas can release the hostages.
Hamas can surrender.
They can topple Hamas.

Hamas must be destroyed, any attempt to attribute any civilian losses to anyone but Hamas is bullshit.

@chrisschmitz This isn't the Second World War. There's no need to repeat Dresden over again. Israel has Gaza literally surrounded and blocked off. A ground invasion would kill fewer civilians, and the difference (in the order of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of civilians) is directly Israel's fault.

Hamas can do this, Hamas can do that, but if Hamas was reasonable, they wouldn't have killed thousands of Israelis. Israel, though, is a state, and is expected to be the bigger man here.

@Fishbed

Who cares about the lives of "possible civilians"?

Israel, actually more than it has to.

@chrisschmitz Apparently not enough to put down their airpower-only order of operations. You've either taken Israeli propaganda to heart or you've failed to think about ways to destroy Hamas other than aerial bombings.