Daring Fireball★ Apple Again Hikes Prices for Its Media Services
https://daringfireball.net/2023/10/apple_again_hikes_prices_for_services
https://daringfireball.net/2023/10/apple_again_hikes_prices_for_services
Chris Gascoigne@daringfireball I think you paint a slightly too rosy picture of the Apple TV+ experience. On some shows you have four things to skip before getting to the show (Podcast ad, trailer for some other show, recap and intro). Two of those are reasonable, two are not and definitely cheapen the experience.
John Gruber@chrisgascoigne Eh, I don't mind any of that, really. Skip works great, and the intro credits in particular shouldn't count. What are you proposing they do, not even have credits? Do you use any streaming services that do better?
@gruber no, my point was that intro and recap are reasonable the other two are incredibly frustrating. I’m paying for the show and I have to skip two ads to watch it (the podcast ad and the trailer)
@chrisgascoigne But which service/channel do you know that doesn’t have promos for other shows? Even before streaming HBO, on cable, showed commercials for other HBO shows at the start.
@gruber I’m talking about the promos that run after I choose to play something but before the show starts, not promos in the menu. I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen a promo after pressing play on Netflix or Disney
fredrik@chrisgascoigne @gruber I’m in total agreement about this. I have zero tolerance for prerolls on a premium streaming subscription and discontinued my ATV+ sub because of it.
@chrisgascoigne I do agree with you on the podcast promos though.
Delric@chrisgascoigne @daringfireball Yeah doesn’t bother me either, you can skip the promo or recap if not interested. But try that on Paramount+ — it forces you to watch unskippable promo ads. Awful on an iPad because you can’t swipe or advance, only sit and watch 30-60 seconds of ad…that you paid for!
@delric @daringfireball I know you can skip the ads. I’ve never seen an ad on Netflix after I click play. Watching Foundation on Apple TV+ shows two ads before I even get to the recap/intro. I don’t think being better than Paramount+ should be the bar for Apple. I think it is particularly grating because the Foundation podcast ad is a still image and it gives me flashbacks to FBI piracy warnings on DVDs.
@chrisgascoigne @daringfireball If the bar is “immediately skippable”, I’m happy to have Apple jump it. I find the promos interesting enough usually.