Carbon-neutral Apple Watch claims rejected as bogus in Europe

https://lemmy.ml/post/6991794

Carbon-neutral Apple Watch claims rejected as bogus in Europe - Lemmy

TL:DR: they don‘t accept offsetting carbon emissions. By that logic, one watch has emitted between 7 and 12kg of CO2.

Note from my side: driving a combustion engine car emits between 100-200g per CO2 per km. So driving 70km in your car, will equal one Apple Watch.

So it is still quite impressive how low the value for the Apple Watch is, but it is not neutral.

I’m confused on what the EU is going for here. When I read “carbon neutral” I assume that means minimized emissions + carbon offsets.

I’m not sure if “zero carbon” is even a thing but it sounds like that is what EU wants “carbon neutral” to mean?

Do you know what the word “neutral” means?
Probably something along the lines of "not negative or positive, but in the middle". Basically a synonym for net zero except net zero may account for other GHGs while carbon neutral may only refer explicitly to carbon. If the process releases CO2 at some points and absorbs the same amount of CO2 elsewhere, then it would be net zero or carbon neutral. But if you release carbon that was stored for 100s of millions of years and would have continued to be stored otherwise and then just store that same amount of carbon for 1-5 years, then you aren't really offsetting and aren't really carbon neutral. Given none of the offset programs seem to have presented concrete evidence for long-term storage, they're worthless in this context. I suppose you could fund short-term storage indefinitely, but how could Apple prove that they're going to be able to fund carbon offsets for a watched purchased today in 75 years? If funding a lumber farm program that harvests trees after 15 years, I suppose you could just fund it every 15 years after an item is manufactured indefinitely? But how would a company demonstrate they're going to continue doing that in 75 years?