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There is some confusion about Meadows "flipping."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/chief-staff-mark-meadows-granted-immunity-tells-special/story?id=104231281

Immunity is something else: This means essentially that he was forced to testify.

It works like this: If the DOJ gives use immunity, nothing he says can be used against him, so it's no longer possible to invoke the 5th Amendment.

(It's late so I'm not sure I explained it well.)

See:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-5/immunity#:~:text=“Transactional”%20immunity%20means%20that%20once,from%20or%20obtained%20because%20of

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-718-derivative-use-immunity

Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources

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Show threadMichael Gemar
@Teri_Kanefield Can use immunity be “forced” on a potential defendant without their consent? That is, if the government unilaterally says someone has immunity, do they automatically lose their 5A right, even without explicitly agreeing to immunity?
Oct 25, 2023 at 3:17amWeb
Show threadHextoreOct 25, 2023

@michaelgemar @Teri_Kanefield Not a lawyer, but I have read about this interesting question before and the answer seems to be "yes."

The logic goes that if it is not possible for you to self-incriminate, then there is nothing from which the 5th could protect you and it's privileges do not apply.