return2ozmaTom Emmer prevails in GOP balloting, becomes speaker-designate
dhorkI wonder if Jeffries decides he has has enough of this nonsense, and tells the entire Democratic Caucus to vote “present” just to get it over with. Then he can go to the cameras and talk about how the Republicans are so dysfunctional that they needed Democrats to help resolve their differences.
Why would they bale Republicans out of their own self-inflicted stupidity for nothing in return?
Because they know they serve the people first and foremost.
It doesn’t “serve the people” to help right wing extremist bomb throwers into positions of power after they’ve already attempted to overturn free, democratic elections and tried to install an unelected leader against the will of the electorate.
The they I was referring to were the democrats. Perhaps I could have worded it better.
Because at some point, work needs to get done there. The nutty wing of the Republican party embraces the standoff, they will have no issue leaving the chair vacant past all the deadlines and into next year. At some point, continuing to play the normal patrician game just plays into their strategy.
If Republicans can’t agree among themselves, or consent to accepting help from Democrats, then the only thing left is to help them passively.
queermunist she/herA lesser disaster now in the form of a shutdown might be better than a much worse disaster that this Republican Party will inevitably cause if they continue as they are now.
Let them eat each other. We’ll be better off in the long run.
Repubs could also vote present, wouldn’t take many to resolve this issue.
“Yeah, but everybody already knows that the Republicans are insane and only want to destroy government, so they obviously can’t be blamed. Let’s blame the Democrats instead!!!”
I wish I lived in the happy little world you do where both sides see the bigger picture and everyone worked together towards a common goal.
The loyal opposition doesn’t exist any more. When they embraced Trump, they went scorched earth. Let them sink. With any luck, they’ll lose enough support in the next election to lose their majority.
Not criticizing you, but in this contexts it’s bail, like bailing water. Bale is like hay bale.
Most of us would rather see the Republican Caucus baled than bailed.
Especially the ones that do the plastic wrap.
Because he’s forcing the GOP to get its shit together or collapse. And there’s genuinely nothing wrong with that.
The GOP is effectively using hostage tactics, and they have done for decades at this point. That’s all it appears they know how to do. Jeffries is refusing to negotiate with hostage takers, which is the correct course of action in the long run.
yip-bonk"Democrats should bail them out again"
Nope. Remember the orange rapist they cheered into a gruesome idiotic coup attempt? Yeah and Dems should help them?
NO. WE'RE CLOSED. Red state idiot bastards. Don't want to get the shit shocked out of you, quit sticking a knife in the socket. No? BZZZT. This is not that difficult.
They're destroying institutions and defying science. That is their only purpose. They have no other common goals. We should not help them at all.
But part of the Freedom Caucus agenda is to gum up the works. They’re not interested in having government function at all. So it’s possible that they will never, ever come to an agreement. Should the Democrats throw up 212 for Jeffries indefinitely? Or should they use what power they have to steer the Republicans to some sort of conclusion?
The moment you thought you steered the Republicans will be the last moment before they happily stick a bunch of knives in your back. That is not prejudice, that is experience.
100% frog and scorpion parable.
It’s folly to think that a democrat reaching across the aisle won’t draw back a bloody stump for the effort. A better solution would be five or six republicans in purple districts to negotiate a compromise and vote for Jeffries. The democrats came to govern; It’s not their job to save the GOP from the GOP.