@[email protected] @gvrooyen yeah, would love to know what search engine is this?

@simondlr @kristinides It's Kagi (kagi.com).

I was on the free tier for a couple of days and had a pretty good experience. I found Google's results very noisy and cluttered recently

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I'm also wondering. :-) Having become a patron for a couple of things I like, I'm slowly shifting my habits/mindset. (I wish we could "fix" the economic model of the web -- way too many obnoxious ads.)
@hugovdm Hi Hugo! It's kagi.com – I first heard about it when @mitchellh mentioned it as part of an effort to move away from tracked, ad-funded services towards services for which you simply pay a reasonable price. I believe this better aligns the interests of both the service provider and the user. Kagi is excellent; I haven't looked back since.
@hugovdm I'd be curious to hear your thoughts, especially given your previous experience with the part of the industry heavily focused on free-to-user services!

@gvrooyen I have many thoughts about ad-funded and freemium style models. And economies of scale... I'm not sure what percentage of Google Search's expenses were in generating and updating the index, vs the cost of serving - but a premium-only search service? How does one build critical mass in the user base to fund the work?

Ok, I guess that's also partly a normal gamble in any startup: build it, betting you'll succeed at finding the necessary users, and perhaps skimp on freshness of the long tail, or latency of capturing breaking news, until you can afford it.

I want to look into Kagi some more later. Collecting your personal data is less of an issue when it's purely for personalising, and not largely for better-attention-stealing ads, or constructing time-sucking media feeds.

Should I share some more thoughts on another day? About anything in particular? This was simply my current stream of consciousness.