Lee DunaAbout 100,000 turn out in London for pro-Palestine rally
GazumiPalestinians asking for a homeland. They are at home and have been invaded for over 70 years
What a bullshit take on the situation. As if they are the victims here.
Exactly this. People are oversimplify the whole story. In my opinion there’s 2 camps of people who supports Palestine.
They just don’t know the historical background and don’t know specifically -what- Hamas did the 7th, nor the support Hamas in Palestine.
They support them because they enjoy jews getting killed.
And concidering how the arab world has reacted during their neighbour’s times of need earlier, closing borders and generally not giving a fuck, group number 2 seems likely.
Palestine lost all support after realizing that not only do they like and support Hamas… they actually celebrate Hamas terrorist attack, they feel joy over the actions many of us now have seen on videos and they celebrate it even in the streets in Western countries.
What about the group that’s aware that Palestinians were forced out of their homes and have been forced to live in impoverished conditions for decades?
What about the group that recognizes the actions of both sides as being wrong and that neither side is “right”?
Oh yes I’m not justifying israels expansion at all, israel isn’t some completely innocent toddler sitting in a corner. It’s however very interesting that you’re excusing the recorded actions that has showed up online though, the rape, the murders, the torture, the executions of whole families in their homes, because “israel also did bad!”.
I feel no empathy for those who affiliates themselves, supports, and/or celebrates it. Those actions regardless of the reason or source. Absolutely fucking despicable. Watch the clips and then tell me “Oh yeah well what about…” Seen the anti Semitic violence went up by over 1000% in UK following the attack? How a synagogue in Germany was attacked by molotovs?
Nobody is exusing anything. Shelling cities and blowing up residential buildings Is bad. So is raping and murdering civilians.
Most of us just want the violence to stop on both sides. Hamas was a side effect of Israel’s oppression. Same as most other terrorist groups and gangs. Everyone is doing awful things and it just needs to fucking stop.
Of course, war is hell and this will never end well for anybody. Check the statistics I linked though and you’ll find that 50% of Palestinians don’t want peace as long as israel exist. How would any sort of peace be established if half of the entire population is against it? The Jews and the Muslims have been in conflict with eachother over Jerusalem since the 1800’s. As Jewish people moved into the city at an increasing rate they started murdering eachother. The atrocities have been aweful from both sides for soon 150 years, long before Israel even existed and sadly now after this terrorist attack, it will all simply just be Israel… I hope any innocent civilian have the ability to get out of there before things really begins.
However, to come back to my original point, you’ll never find compilations online of israelian soldiers doing the same things that the beloved Hamas did, and if they wouldve, you would never see Jewish people celebrate the rapes and murders of children and women.
Anybody here can say whatever they want, it’s beyond disgusting to see the amount of support and celebrations that was going on during the 7th october attack and the total lack of reaction from the rest of the world. I’ll never have the urge to help anybody that approves of and/or celebrates the things shown in those videos.
TonyCheck the statistics I linked though and you’ll find that 50% of Palestinians don’t want peace as long as israel exist.
From your link:
Moreover, half (50%) agreed with the following proposal: “Hamas should stop calling for Israel’s destruction, and instead accept a permanent two-state solution based on the 1967 borders.”
That does not support your claim, because people were not asked about what you claim, and it’s grossly dishonest to suggest they answered based on your characterization.
The question is two-pronged, asking both whether Hamas should change their demands and then narrowing the possible solution down to one specific peace alternative that we know many Palestinians would be deeply unhappy with, given that it would mean substantial territorial concessions and might well also have been interpreted as largely giving up the very thorny right of return demand.
Nothing in this question asks people to agree or disagree to “peace as long as Israel exist”.
A more reasonable interpretation is that half of Gazans are support substantial concessions before even starting any negotiations by expressing support for a kind of peace that’d involve the Palestinian side giving up on big territorial claims from the outset.
When you misrepresent the numbers this way, why should anyone listen to you?