CuttsOct 20, 2023
Eniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)

articles are like "the economic cost of long covid is too high, we need a cure!!!"

i mean a cure would be rad but we already know how to prevent long covid:

1. vaccination
2. ventilation & filtration
3. masking

society is currently so disinterested in the ramifications of long covid we can't even be bothered to prevent it using cheap and effective methods

Oct 19, 2023 at 10:32pmWeb
Show threadDave Dawkins (D. Harrigon)Oct 19, 2023
@eniko It's the same with the current climate emergency. People are suggesting shooting rockets full of tin-foil chaff into the air to deflect the sun's rays. Meanwhile, look how effectively the planet cooled during covid when capitalism had to slow down for a few months.
Show threadKevin Petker (they/them)Oct 19, 2023

@golgaloth @eniko

I think I see it, there need to be a way to profit, for it to be interesting for those with their hands on the levers of power.

Hmmm...

Show threadPhoenixSerenityOct 19, 2023
@golgaloth @eniko I remember many seeing so much different wildlife returning to places during initial covid lockdowns....they have a brief reprieve from crappy humans in their natural habitats.
Show threadLisPiOct 20, 2023
@golgaloth @eniko Using those same rockets aimed at private jets would probably be more effective.
Show threadMachine Lord ZeroOct 19, 2023
@eniko We HAD a cure: staying at home for long enough for the disease to fizzle out.
But we decided, apparently, that the economic cost of getting rid of the disease was too high.
Show thread★ Amy Star ★Oct 19, 2023

@eniko we just need to cure viral-induced autoimmune disorders

as if that isn't one of the many holy grails of modern medicine lmfao

Show threadSleep_Zombie | Vtuber 🧠💭Oct 19, 2023

@eniko

Don't forget my favorite method:

4. avoid all people forever

Show threadSteffen ChristensenOct 20, 2023
@Sleep_Zombie @eniko This also works.
Show threadJosh JersildOct 19, 2023
@eniko This definitely falls into the usual category of "people really can't seem to prevent bad stuff from happening, all we can do is try to rapidly adjust to it while it's happening, and we're not even good at that either"
Show threadSpenotOct 19, 2023
@eniko I forgot to take a mask with me when I went to my GP today, so I went into the pharmacy next door to buy an N95. The pharmacist was like “I think we have some somewhere…” and found a box with a single remaining mask in it. I was internally raging
Show threadEniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Oct 19, 2023
@spenot wow
Show threadApple Annie Oct 19, 2023
@eniko a whole shitload of us folks with ME/CFS have been waiting a lifetime on the edge of our seats for a cure too…any day now 🙄 but sure, 3 years of Long Covid research should do it
Show threadEniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Oct 19, 2023
@anniegreens yeah like, i would love my friends with LC/ME/CFS to be cured but i'm not convinced that a society that won't even do any prevention is gonna be the society that finds a cure
Show threadApple Annie Oct 19, 2023
@eniko and let’s suppose they do, what would that look like? Pfizer is about to jack up the antiviral Paxlovid to a cost that most people will be unable to access. Knowing the devastation that LC/ME/CFS has on people’s lives and livelihoods, how would a treatment that a pharmaceutical company develops be within any of their reach?
Show threadLisPiOct 20, 2023
@anniegreens @eniko Didn't they already? >1k isn't exactly pocket change for most Canadians.
Show threadAlexander The 1stOct 20, 2023
@lispi314 @anniegreens @eniko My immediate thought is have it covered under universal healthcare, though I guess we're talking about the treatment options/cures outside of vaccinations, where it would be universal pharmacare instead.
Show threadLisPiOct 20, 2023

@AT1ST @anniegreens @eniko In Canada I think the term is still just public/universal healthcare.

The issue is that they're only covering the costs if you're already immunosuppressed or "at risk" in some very specific categories that completely ignore that as far as the science is concerned, *everyone* is at risk.

Show threadAlexander The 1stOct 20, 2023

@lispi314 @anniegreens @eniko In B.C. here, it usually is considered universal/public healthcare, you're not wrong; I mainly make the distinctions between healthcare and pharmacare because pharmacare would cover the cost of prescription medications (And as I understand, dental costs too - although that may be different too.).

Though yeah - the "At risk" category seems like it should be larger for this to include everyone.

Show threadAndrew PontiousOct 19, 2023

@eniko @WuMargaret “We need to stop Long Covid!”

“…Not like that.”

Show threadgudenauOct 19, 2023

@eniko Plus this stuff would help with everything else!

I really want to keep up with protection but everyone I live with just decided to not care about it at all.....

Show threadEniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)Oct 19, 2023
@gudenau im sorry, that's a really tough position to be in
Show threadCatherine is not complacentOct 19, 2023
@eniko people just want a magic pill , so much easier than the common sense approaches that some of us practice.
Show threadfmacskasyOct 19, 2023

@eniko

Nailed it.

I'm still double masking - a situation that won't be changing any time soon!

Show threadM.S. Bellows, Jr.Oct 20, 2023
@eniko Right? It's like comparing the cost of an ambulance ride, Emergency Department visit, hospital, and rehab to the cost of new brakes.
Show threadPeachMcDOct 20, 2023

@eniko

I knew we were f'd as soon as #Covid19 became a revenue stream 💔🤦🏻‍♀️
#Jail4COVIDprofiteers

Show threadJustin MOct 20, 2023
@eniko Society in general fails to learn anything. That's why the same mistakes are repeated over and over again throughout history.
Show threadSoozcatOct 20, 2023
@Jam123 @eniko Unfortunately true. There was even a similar rush to urge people not to panic during the last major pandemic, the Spanish flu. "Don't get scared! Worry kills more people than the flu does!" (No it doesn't, idiot. The flu killed many more people than those who died in combat during the last year of WWI.)
Show threadBrian JeffearsOct 20, 2023
@eniko They Desire the culling, priming that climate change pump every which way.
Show threadUnderGround Game StoreOct 20, 2023

@eniko

I couldn't agree with you more...
I have never had Covid and in my area it didn't affect me aside from social distancing but we forgot about the threat of Covid way to quickly.

The moment Russia invaded Ukraine everyone forgot about Covid.

Show threadCuttsOct 20, 2023
@eniko nobody in retail is going to do this, I'm working on ameatwrapper that should have been replaced a decade ago and one broken scale.
Show threadmmalcOct 20, 2023

@eniko
4. Far-UV

And 2, 3, and 4 would also mitigate against other pathogens which would yield further health benefits; and used in public settings 2 and 4 don’t impinge on or “inconvenience” individuals directly

Show threadAvocado ToastOct 20, 2023
@eniko that's how we do everything, for reference take a look at abolishing trains and street cars and then trying to invent a self-driving car.
Show threadDebbie BelairOct 20, 2023
@eniko Prevention is best. Drug treatments are very toxic.
Show threadquixoteOct 20, 2023
@eniko And UVC disinfectant lighting where possible.
Show threadTytraterOct 20, 2023
@eniko the problem is there’s no profit in prevention; you mentioned yourself how cheap it is. The cure for long Covid, however will be insanely profitable and our entire economic system is designed solely to maximize profits at all times
Show threadSkelementalOct 20, 2023
@eniko you say prevent but what you mean is reduce incidence of. This is, of course, important, but telling people to just not get sick ( or in most cases, you shouldn’t have already gotten sick ) does not make the problem go away. I’d argue if the primary plan for something is the near universal participation and compliance of society at large it’s not even a plan. Humans just don’t work together at that scale, at least so far in our history.
Show threadderekOct 20, 2023
@eniko https://media.tenor.com/xV8qY0HggGwAAAAC/simpsons-weve-tried-nothing.gif