Echo71NinerOct 17, 2023

Israel kills 500 in Gaza hospital ‘massacre’

https://lemm.ee/post/11834940

Israel kills 500 in Gaza hospital ‘massacre’ - lemm.ee

> An Israeli air strike has hit al-Ahli hospital in Gaza City where thousands of civilians are seeking medical treatment and shelter from relentless attacks. > Gaza health ministry says at least 500 casualties in hospital blast. A UN-run school housing refugees also struck. > The attack comes a day before US President Joe Biden visits Israel, where he is expected to stress American support for the country. > A planned summit with President Biden in Jordan has been cancelled, the Jordanian government says. > Some 3,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza since Hamas’s October 7 attack inside Israel, which has killed more than 1,400. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/17/world-reacts-as-gaza-officials-say-500-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-hospital [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/17/world-reacts-as-gaza-officials-say-500-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-hospital]

Show threadNeverNudeNo13Oct 17, 2023

The air strike is in dispute, HAMAS claims Israel, Israel claims HAMAS was responsible.

A little too soon to be jumping to conclusions and I would recommend everyone practice skepticism and patience, especially with reporting is coming from extremely biased sources like al-Jazeera, or official spokespersons.

People are suffering through this from every side, and it’s just so disgusting and frustrating that people are so quick to leverage the suffering of anyone in their own pointless bias confirmations. Especially so when those individuals have no ties at all to any of this and are vastly ignorant of the political/military complexities involved here.

Propaganda is designed specifically to illicit emotional reactions… So, “Don’t react, wait for facts!”

Show threadEcho71NinerOct 17, 2023
Israelis are liars. The facade has crumbled. The charade is over. Nobody believes them.
Show threadcapitalOct 17, 2023

Doesn’t Hamas regularly shoot rockets from hospitals and schools?

Tough to occupy the moral high ground when you’re doing that.

Show threadJBloodthornOct 18, 2023
That is not an excuse to hit the civilians, even if it were true.
Show threadcapitalOct 18, 2023

The reason they do it is they KNOW it affords them protection because of the way Israel operates.

Now imagine the situation reversed. Hamas wouldn’t believe their luck.

Show threadJBloodthorn
Judging by what they shout on the street, their rules are "kill them all" and "death to all Palestinians".
Oct 18, 2023 at 12:26amWeb
Show threadcapitalOct 18, 2023

In 2005, 21 Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip were unilaterally dismantled and Israeli settlers and army evacuated from inside the Gaza Strip.

…wikipedia.org/…/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

Just learned about this during the recent conflict. Are they still on/in Palestinian land?

Israeli disengagement from Gaza - Wikipedia

Show threadJBloodthornOct 18, 2023
Kind of a loaded question; no matter the answer someone will get pissed off. Israel keeps getting bigger, every year. Palestine gets smaller. Those settlements in particular? Probably not.
Show threadMadison420Oct 18, 2023
Yup omw of the tactics is to leave settlements in shitty areas and moving to the new ones in better areas. The idea is less “we need a place to live” and more “once we displace a family with generational claim to the land then leave, the area is now “disputed.””