An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower

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An Alabama woman was imprisoned for ‘endangering’ her fetus. She gave birth in a jail shower - Lemmy.World

I think women should maybe leave these places if they can. I wouldn’t even let a man think about having kids with me if I were a woman in any of those shit states.
those people are so incredibly brainwashed by conservatives, they will happily vote to their own detriment. but yay. fox news. free market. yay.
The true detriment is a two party system. You are like a dog being thrown scraps by whichever party you vote for, and things are only getting worse while people continue to pick one side or the other and don’t overthrow the entire system they keep supporting.
All revolutions have hurt poor people the most.
Lol sure. So why try and improve things? You’ll only make it worse. Enjoy the scraps.

Please show me where I said to do nothing. Why don’t you try imagining new ways of improving things rather than repeating the mistakes of the past? Of the revolutions in the 18th-20th centuries, I think only the American revolution accomplished anything close to what it was intending. And that’s because it didn’t destroy all the existing institutions while in the process of implementing new ones.

(Not that I agree with what the American revolution was intending, but we did get mostly what they set out to do without thousands of poor civilians starving to death in the process.)

Our current institutions are the problem. Why should we keep them?

Our institutions are not the problem, our policies are the problem. I want to see a transition to UBI, but an overhaul that dismantled WIC and SNAP before we got UBI in place would be an unmitigated disaster for the very people we were intending to help.

It’s not the reform that I’m skeptical of. It’s the lust for revolutionary destruction as a path to reform that I’m skeptical of. It’s emotionally satisfying without regard to its actual efficacy in accomplishing the proposed reforms. Because history does not show us evidence that this works out well in the long run.

I’m proposing a revolution entirely led by the people, as that is the only true kind of revolution. The people who would then rule themselves with no intermediaries. Real grassroots organisation.
Well, it better have some kind of mechanism in place to keep the grocery stores full or it’s going to fail on its face.

Couple things for you to look up:

  • Farming
  • Transport

These two things would likely do it.

Do what? Just saying “we’ll have farming and transport” is not a plan.

I’m not saying there isn’t any other way to accomplish food production and distribution. I’m saying that just overthrowing our current systems without an explicit plan to keep food on the shelves is going to result in regular working class people starving. That has happened in every revolution except the American, and that’s because the American revolutionaries already had the Continental Congress in place making plans about how to administrate the country, if they managed to win the war.

But most revolutions were just pure chaos with no plan that resulted in regular people starving to death. I 100% agree we need new systems. But I’m not terribly interested in living through a violent revolution.

Is the people’s assembly in session right now? No? Then save the details for when it matters. These decisions are made by people on the ground in response to material conditions.
And I’m just saying be careful of who and what you support and make sure they’re planning to have these things covered.
There is no one promising this, and I wouldn’t trust anyone saying they did. I would only trust a movement that started from the people.
Then the people have to be organized enough to keep the food going! It’s not magic, the world doesn’t just run without any planning or direction.
Of course they have to be organised. Who expects things to be done with no effort?