The EU intends to add surveillance to end-to-end encrypted chats, including the use of AI powered scanners that should (generically) detect Child Sexual Abuse Material and grooming & report to Europol. Yesterday, I presented on this terrible proposal in a hearing of the Dutch parliament. Here is an English transcript of my very plain language explanation of how bad this all is: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/client-side-scanning-dutch-parliament/ /cc @echo_pbreyer
Transcript Dutch parliamentary hearing on EU Chat Control and Client Side Scanning - Bert Hubert's writings

On the 11th of October, Dutch parliament organized a hearing on the EU “Chatcontrol” proposal, with a focus on client side scanning. Dutch parliament had earlier passed two motions calling on the Dutch government not to support this proposal, but our government has declared it will ignore those motions. This hearing was timely because next week, or even this Friday, EU member states vote on how to proceed with this terrible proposal (Lawfare review from a US perspective).

Bert Hubert's writings

@bert_hubert @echo_pbreyer It's an absolute shitshow. What makes it even worse is that other factors that actually contribute to a healthy society in which such exploitation can effectively be combatted are systematically broken down.

Education (where teachers can play an important role in discovering abuse and providing help), mental healthcare, social cohesion, etc. Would all be so much more beneficial than breaking security and implementing crappy tech solutions.

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@bert_hubert @echo_pbreyer Lots of techies discovered the hard way that you cannot solve deeply rooted societal issues by throwing more tech at it. However much we'd like to automate all the things.

The agenda being pushed is either backed by people lacking knowledge, or in a much more cynical take; By people who will benefit in terms of money and/or power.

Thanks for presenting a counter voice, it's incredibly important considering the damage this may cause.

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@jpostma @bert_hubert

Unfortunately I think the issue is a lack of knowledge and understanding by those in charge and those who pressure politicians to protect children.

I've worked in tech support for over five years now and it's obvious that so many people lack a basic understanding of how to use technology let alone understand it.

@2E0RKE @bert_hubert I'm with you on the lack of understanding on technology by the general population.

That being said, these are not just some concerned individuals who could be ignorant. We're talking about policymakers in positions that require a certain level of diligence.

They know. They have been consulted by experts and their actions show a coordinated effort to push this regardless.

BI has an article on what seems to be going on behind all this. https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/

‘Who Benefits?’ Inside the EU’s Fight over Scanning for Child Sex Content

An investigation uncovers a web of influence in the powerful coalition aligned behind the European Commission’s proposal to scan for child sexual abuse material online, a proposal leading experts say puts rights at risk and will introduce new vulnerabilities by undermining encryption.

Balkan Insight

@jpostma I disagree. There's a difference between knowing and fully comprehending something. If our politicians here in the UK are anything to go by, they know a lot but comprehend very little when it comes to technical matters.

Thank you for the link though I shall read it at some point today. Thanks too for the civilised discussion. Not something that was common on the bird site! @bert_hubert

@2E0RKE @bert_hubert You're welcome, likewise! :)

Also, don't get me wrong, I don't expect them to maintain a deep understanding on every technological topic, that's why it's important that policy is backed by science and experts.

But given the circumstances and the way this is being handled, as described in the linked article and some more recent news regarding micro-targeting ads etc. it looks like there's more going on here.

@jpostma Having just read what you sent over I find myself agreeing with that assessment. Getting rich off of finding CSAM somehow feels wrong @bert_hubert