MicroWaveOct 14, 2023

'Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center

https://lemmy.world/post/6782180

'Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center - Lemmy.World

Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza. Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa’ad, to “kill as many people as possible,” seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip. The attack plans, which are labeled “top secret” in Arabic, appear to be orders for two highly trained Hamas units to surround and infiltrate villages and target places where civilians, including children, gather. Israeli authorities are still determining the death toll in Kfar Sa’ad.

Show threadfruitleatherpostcardOct 14, 2023
The world needs to recognise PALESTINIANS as legitimate but not Hamas. Hamas has invaded the open wound which is Gaza, and promotes evil toxicity rather than healing.
Show threadTrismegistusMxOct 14, 2023
Israel is responsible for far more death than Hamas, yet you blame Hamas. This open wound you speak of, it’s maintained and exacerbated by the IDF.
Show threadsabOct 14, 2023

It's possible to blame both. There's nothing in the comment you're responding to saying Israel is not a terror state or that they're not to blame for things going to shit.

You can absolutely blame Hamas for their actions. And you can blame Israel for Hamas. Responding to completely fair criticism of Hamas by whining that Israel is worse is just whataboutism. They are both terror organizations at this point.

Show threadgrabyourmotherskeysOct 14, 2023
This is why I’ve stayed out of the fray, everyone here is a bad actor. There are decades of eye for an eye that have resulted in everyone being blind.
Show threadTokenBoomerOct 14, 2023
Revolutionary militant groups don’t spawn where material conditions are being met. If every Palestinian was “middle class,” Hamas would have never flourished. Which tells you everything about who is to blame.
Show threadAceticonOct 14, 2023

To add to this and as I wrote somewhere else, the Israeli State has for so long made life so hard for Palestinians, especially in the Gaza strip, that there are now tens of thousands of Palestinians with so little to lose that joining an organisation internationally seen as a terrorist organisation is still a step-up from that.

Reminds me of the parable “the more you squeeze the more sand dissapears between your fingers”.

Show threadEatBorekYouWreckOct 14, 2023

Look at the massacre apologist…

You can do many things before joining a terrorist org. Many Gazans prefer to work in Israel instead for example. And even if you did, there’s a very long path from joining for the sake of bettering you status to killing children in their beds as they sleep.

Show threadAceticon

Your arguments are so powerful that you had to start your post by othering and then slandering the person you disagree with.

The funny bit is that in the only part that made a tiny bit of sense, you ended up confirming my point: Gazans would much rather live and work in the same conditions as the Israeli and, lo-and-behold, those who do get a chance and even just get close to that (as they’re never more than 3rd class citizens in Israel) don’t join terrorist groups.

Oct 14, 2023 at 7:02pmWeb
Show threadEatBorekYouWreckOct 14, 2023
Oh I do, and the Palestinian population living in Israel enjoys the prosperity of israel. From the sentiment of your comments, I feel like you think Israel should somehow provide for the Palestinians in Gaza. But you see, 1. It isn’t obligated to help neighboring countries, and 2. It doesn’t want to. I don’t see Spain providing its neighbor Morroco although it would benefit the Morrocan population. I don’t see the US providing for Mexican border towns, although it may move people away from joining drug cartels (because as you said it, poor people have no choice but join criminal orgs)