Paul Haddad 
Setting up an Apple TV.
Launch App Store.
Download a bunch of "Now Streaming" apps.
Never launch App Store a
gain.
Jon Nemargut@paul I wonder when there will be a streaming device that just comes preloaded with everything downloaded?
trisweb@paul literally the only benefit: feels responsive to interact with and doesn't lag on every button press.
Alex Aguilar@paul whoa whoa whoa… I opened it a second time after iOS 17 brought VPN support and I had to install Tailscale
@ajatoledo oh that's actually a good idea.
Curtis Bridges 
@paul Fair. Also fair: I only launch the Mac App Store and iOS App Stores to force install updates. My app ecosystem is pretty mature.
I pretty much live in Homebrew for install/uninstalls where possible.
Gui Schmitt
Casey Kelley@paul C'mon now, every now and again you gotta open it to download yet another streaming service's app they make you use, or a new one just because they changed their name.
Ryan@paul you can go to the app store to update your apps
GK@paul Still better than App Store on Apple Watch (which still has the same set of recommended apps since it’s introduction in Hungary 5? years ago)
René@paul I don’t get the appeal of Apple TV anyways. Nowadays you can get dirt cheap Android TV sticks and they run all the same apps - so it’s basically the same thing. Unless you care about the iCloud implementation or Apple’s streaming offers, which are so lame and overpriced.
Crumbs the Cat@renehupfer @paul I trust Apple’s privacy posture over Google’s. There’s a reason those Android TV devices are so cheap.
Wu Evar 🇪🇺🇺🇦Maybe one does not want “cheap hardware” but good integration. AppleTV can act as a HomeKit central and has good integration with iPhones (remote control, type on iPhones, stuff like this)
Also, your opinion of AppleTV+ as "lame" and "overpriced" is highly subjective. (For ME, it is the only recurring subscription streaming service (cheaper, higher quality).)
@maschinentraum @paul most smart home devices need an additional proprietary hub anyways. So I don’t understand why you’d need an Apple TV HomeKit Hub. Just use your phone? And/or Alexa/Siri device. Yes it’s subjective about TV+ as subjective and Netflix productions being goofy garbage renditions of already existing big classic Hollywood productions.
Nate@paul I had hopes the Apple TV would become the new shared-family-computer that we were promised in the 80's, but no.
PK@paul basically my thoughts too!