StrypeyOct 8, 2023

"We’re seeing it now in the conversation around co-governance. And, when there’s a peak in these claims and assertions of Māori privilege, then historically at least, we’ve seen that Māori have lost things.

Notions of privilege, first used to systematically dispossess and marginalise Māori, are being redeployed to consolidate the power imbalance established in the previous centuries."

#PeterMeihana, interviewed by #ConnieBuchanan, 2023

https://e-tangata.co.nz/comment-and-analysis/peter-meihana-the-pervasive-myth-of-maori-privilege/

#Māori #CoGovernance

Peter Meihana: The pervasive myth of Māori privilege | E-Tangata

“When there's a peak in these claims and assertions of Māori privilege, then historically at least, we’ve seen that Māori have lost things.” — Peter Meihana.

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Show threadJo

@strypey I don’t recall the actual numbers but I once heard that the total of all claims to date is (again probably wrong) 2/6th of estimated total and the country can’t afford to pay that now, so we do need to work together so we can find equity and justice for those who have been dispossessed and disempowered. #Māori #CoGovernance

Enjoyed this ep to: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/lane-park-church/id1178379062?i=1000415568921

‎Lane Park Church: The History of the Treaty – Eugene Fuimaono on Apple Podcasts

‎Show Lane Park Church, Ep The History of the Treaty – Eugene Fuimaono - 7 July 2018

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Show threadStrypeyOct 8, 2023

@jomangee
> I once heard that the total of all claims to date is (again probably wrong) 2/6th of estimated total

If you mean the amount hapū and iwi have settled for, relative to the amount they're actually owed, it's way, *way* less than a third.

In 1995, Tainui accepted $170 million as compensation for the illegal confiscation of the entire Waikato region, which they estimated to be worth $12 billion:

https://www.govt.nz/assets/Documents/OTS/Waikato-Tainui-Raupatu/Waikato-Tainui-Deed-of-Settlement-22-May-1995.pdf

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Show threadStrypeyOct 8, 2023

@jomangee
Kai Tahu also accepted $170 million, in compensation for about 10% of Te Wai Pounamu:

"The Crown undertook to set aside adequate reserves to have been approximately 10% of the 34.5 million acres sold"

https://ngaitahu.iwi.nz/ngai-tahu/the-settlement/claim-history/

Māori have been very generous with what they've settled for. But the idea that these are full and final settlements, that extinguish the treaty relationships created at Waitangi, is obviously nonsense.

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Show threadStrypeyOct 8, 2023
@jomangee
It's the equivalent of the government taking your house, and then 100 years later, apologising to your great-grandchildren and, buying them lunch.
Show threadJoOct 8, 2023

@strypey Yeah the $10b sounds familiar - and probably heard $200mil so a long way to go let alone the suffering and hardships.

.1% transaction tax would make that in a month, bringing it back to #nzpol - too little and way too late, but still we are as a country responsible for our collective actions.

Show threadStrypeyOct 8, 2023

@jomangee
>1% transaction tax would make that in a month

Any decent suite of taxes on excessive wealth (eg CGT, profiteering tax, land tax, inheritance tax etc) would allow governments to settle more Waitangi claims, and increase spending on public services, and abolish GST, *and* run a deficit to help bring inflation down, until the real economy catches up with the money supply.

It seems like a no-brainer.

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Show threadStrypeyOct 8, 2023

@jomangee
But there are only 3 political parties proposing any kind of tax on excessive wealth in this election, and only 2 of them have any chance of influencing a government in the post-election negotiations.

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Show threadJoOct 9, 2023
@strypey Yeah, mainly dreams. One of the candidates I advised this time around is keen to do something anyway. They called it a “taxation bonfire” https://www.times.co.nz/news/election-candidate-supports-taxation-bonfire/
Election candidate supports taxation bonfire - Times

One of the local candidates standing in this year’s general election wants to see all existing taxes scrapped in favour of a 0.1 per cent transaction tax. John Alcock is representing the new Rock The Vote NZ party in the Pakuranga electorate. It’s one of several component parties of Freedoms New Zealand, which is led by Brian Tamaki […]

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Show threadStrypeyOct 9, 2023

@jomangee
> wants to see all existing taxes scrapped in favour of a 0.1 per cent transaction tax

Have you got estimates of how much that 0.1% would add up to, under a range of scenarios, and how that compared to the current tax take?

Show threadJoOct 9, 2023
@strypey I’ve seen the spreadsheets somewhere, “Alcock supports eliminating “excess taxation” in favour of a 0.1 per cent transaction tax, which he calculates would generate $10b a month in income to the Government.”
Show threadStrypeyOct 9, 2023

@jomangee
> a 0.1 per cent transaction tax, which he calculates would generate $10b a month in income to the Government

I'd like the see the figures, and particularly the assumptions underlying them. We debated FTT a lot when I was in the Pirate Party, and even more than most policy areas, the devil is in the details.