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MicroWave Oct 8, 2023

German woman's body paraded naked, spit on by Hamas fighters in Israel

https://lemmy.world/post/6485742

German woman's body paraded naked, spit on by Hamas fighters in Israel - Lemmy.world

Disturbing visuals of Hamas parading a naked and battered body of a woman on the streets of Israel have emerged. Another woman confirmed that it was her sister, a German citizen, seen in the video. As the Israel-Gaza conflict rages, disturbing visuals of fighters of the Palestinian armed group Hamas parading a naked and battered body of a woman through the streets of Israel in the back of a pickup truck have emerged. According to videos that surfaced on social media, a screaming crowd surrounds the Hamas’ vehicle, echoing their cries and spitting on the woman’s body. Hamas initially claimed that the body belonged to a female Israeli soldier, according to news.com.au [http://news.com.au]. However, Adi Louk confirmed on X that the woman seen in the video was her sister, Shani Louk, a German citizen and a tattoo artist, reported the New York Post. Shani Louk’s mother, in a video message posted by Visegrad 24 on X, confirmed her daughter’s identity and appealed to people for more information regarding her whereabouts.

Uncle_Iroh Oct 8, 2023

There is exactly nothing I can say about Hamas or Isreal that doesn’t make me seem like a huge piece of shit. What a shitty situation between 2 shitty groups and it’s unfortunate others are being pulled into it.

ruford1976 Oct 8, 2023

53% of Palestinians (not only Gazans, where the % is likely significantly higher) are supporters of Hamas.

Source:

apnews.com/…/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e13…

the rest of them support fatah who just released a statement condoning the attacks.

There is no alternative. Palestine is a failed Islamist state.

Poll finds dramatic rise in Palestinian support for Hamas

JERUSALEM (AP) — A new poll released Tuesday finds a dramatic surge in Palestinian support for Hamas following last month's Gaza war, with around three quarters viewing the Islamic militants as victors in a battle against Israel to defend Jerusalem and its holy sites.

AP News

TheEighthDoctor Oct 8, 2023

Israel took their lands and kicked them out of their houses, kills them by the hundreds, the world does nothing because Israel is a friend of the US who do you think they are going to turn to if not to rebels?

JasSmith Oct 8, 2023

I support them turning to rebels. I don’t support them turning to terrorists who intentionally murder innocent civilians. There is a large distinction between the two.

lanolinoil Oct 8, 2023

If I took your family’s house and people’s sovereignty away for a few generations would you still be able to stand on your moral highground?

Are you asking if I’d rape and murder innocent women if I felt aggrieved by a third party? I can confidently say that, no, I would not do that. Is that really standing on a moral high ground, or just not being a murderous, psychopathic, piece of shit?

lanolinoil Oct 8, 2023

No I was saying step outside of your own experience and really try to empathize with others. You should do it in all issues. Your other comment I felt showed you mostly ignored that.

Cryophilia Oct 8, 2023

I can understand that a person in a barbaric situation would turn to barbarism.

It is our responsibility as sentient beings to NOT do that. For some of us it is easier than others. But it is everyone’s responsibility. Regardless of circumstance.

lanolinoil Oct 8, 2023

Right – But to make desperate people who cheer misguidedly ‘the other’ and different from us dehumanizes them which comes with all kinds of bad side effects, many of which you can see on display here.

You can do both – You can not condone violence while understanding why a group of people treated like they’re not people can fail to uphold high morals in this situation without gloating or pretending they’re made of stuff you’re not. We’re all just people.

Cryophilia Oct 8, 2023

Nope. They failed the test of basic humanity. Their test was more difficult than ours, but they still failed.

No sympathy. Understanding, but not sympathy.

lanolinoil Oct 9, 2023

Well… Just know that’s how people convinced others to commit the very evils against their fellow man that you speak of – over and over for 1000s of years. Taking that position may soothe your belief in humanity but it makes you vulnerable to be co-opted to commit the very same evils against which you preach.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_(philosophy)

Other (philosophy) - Wikipedia

lanolinoil Oct 9, 2023

and empathy !== sympathy.

JasSmith Oct 8, 2023

I can’t sympathise with murderous rapists. I can’t imagine any common ground. I sympathise with the peaceful people of Palestine. Those few who don’t support Hamas.

DarthBueller Oct 9, 2023

And those few make enough loud booms that create red mist carnage to ruin it for the rest of the people. Israel’s response to terrorism is understandable. The problem is that modern-day zealots do shit like create illegal settlements. Israel tried preventing illegal settlements to be repaid with more bombs. Now they know they’re going to get attacked either way. This will not end well.

hark Oct 9, 2023

Go live in Gaza and show them all how morally superior you are.

DarthBueller Oct 9, 2023

If I lived in Gaza I would be royally pissed at Hamas but wouldn’t say a thing because I enjoy being alive. If I lived in Gaza I would understand that the leadership was corrupt and pocketed millions of dollars of Israeli and international aid intended to allow Gaza to have its own power and water plants. If I lived in Gaza I would do my best not to live in Gaza, but would be not allowed to leave because no Arab country wants any more Palestinians then they already have.