Moment Israeli airstrike hits Gaza tower block after Hamas attack – video

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Moment Israeli airstrike hits Gaza tower block after Hamas attack – video - Lemmy.world

Israeli airstrikes destroyed a tower block in Gaza City after Hamas militants launched a rocket and air attack on Israel in the early hours of Saturday morning. The Israeli army launched Operation Iron Swords against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, with Israel’s president, Benjamin Netanyahu, saying the country, is ‘at war’. Al Jazeera journalist Youmna El Sayed was reporting live from Gaza the moment the missile struck Palestine Tower behind her. Sources in Gaza said at least 198 Palestinians were killed in the strikes

Palestine strikes Israel: 22 dead (huge outcry) Israel strikes Palestine: 200 dead (nobody bats an eye)

Israel is a problematic subject with how imbalanced it is handled in media, resembling more propaganda than anything else.

So you think Israel should just accept that a genocidal terrorist organisation attacks its civilian population? Yes, Hamas uses civilians as meat shields but what are the Israelis supposed to do? Let themselves be slaughtered?

This is the same Israel with their elite mossad forces, yes? “Meat shields” are a poor excuse for indiscriminately bombing a city block when you have elite spec ops units. They don’t do it because they have no other choice, they do it as a threatening show of force. “Fuck with us and we’ll kill anyone even near you”.

There’s a middle ground that doesn’t involve slaughtering innocents.

Any chance you can school me in the rights and wrongs of this situation, I have tried to read up on the situation between Israel and Palestine and I just can’t work out who, if anyone is at fault. It just seems like a crazy unresolvable mess.

On the face of it I would just think the solution is to let the Palestinians have their bit of land and be done with it, why is it not that simple?

Also it’s really hard to understand who is justified in their actions. I often find myself feeling sorry for the Palestinians but then I see them riding through London celebration the murder of innocent people and it makes it really hard for me to feel sorry for them. Similarly with Israelis, it’s horrible that they have innocent civilians murdered but killing 250 in response is just crazy…

I’m not trolling or shit posting I honestly can’t work it out.

It's an incredibly complex situation, but as a baseline:

Intentionally targeting civilians is unacceptable.

Hamas does this with great pride. It celebrates the slaughter and kidnapping of civilians. It pays the families of terrorists in celebration of their terrorism.

In my opinion, the IDF is remarkably careful not to kill civilians. There have been incidental killings, largely, from my knowledge, when Hamas fires rockets from civilian areas such as homes, mosques, hospitals, and schools. There have been rogue Israeli actors who killed civilians intentionally, and they have mostly been tried and convicted for their crimes. There have been moral failures on behalf of the IDF, but it does generally investigate those failures seriously, rather than celebrating them.

I do sympathize for innocent Palestinians who are doubly oppressed by Hamas and the Israeli occupation, but feel that the occupation is necessary to prevent greater violence against Israeli civilians.

That's about all I can give you without digging into the history.

Anyone who calls the IDF careful about avoiding civilian deaths is either deeply ignorant or arguing in bad faith and seeking to legitimize a highly brutally murderous apartheid regime.
The sheer number of civilian casaulties makes all of this irrelevant, and makes you an apartheid apologist. I don’t engage with supporters of apartheid regimes, so enjoy the block.

"Hamas may be using its civilians as meat shields, but no matter how careful Israel is, you're not allowed to call them careful because many of the meat shields still end up dying!"

You're a Hamas apologist. I haven't defended anything that could be called apartheid, and wouldn't. But go ahead and blame me for citing facts.