Neko the gameri hate that it's very often like this
DJDarrenAs someone who’s never used Linux, TIL that software doesn’t work across all flavours of Linux.
pete_the_catWell it does technically, the issue we’re talking about is how it’s packaged, one you extract the package the software will work just the same (assuming there aren’t any version mismatches between kernel modules). DEBs (Debian based distros) and RPMs (RedHat based distros) are the two biggest package formats, the next common format is a tar ball.
Add to this, this gives birth to more modern packaging format like flatpak, appimage, and snap, that works across all distro with proper permission control.
Now for most graphical apps, you just search on the app store and click install, like a mac user.
uislike a iphone user.
I DON’T WANT THIS
Iphone is most locked-down anti-consumer pile of garbage and this is how you defend it?
There are different aspect to the same product. IPhone is lockeddown and aniconsumer, but it doesn’t mean every aspect of it is not worth taking a lesson from.
In order for linux to have mass apeal, it will need to be simple by default, and that is where the app store model shines, you just search and click install, everyone can figure that out.
But that doesn’t imply linux has to be lockdown and anticonsumer like iphone. If you want to compile your own kernel, you should have freedom to do so.
and that is where the app store model shines, you just search and click install, everyone can figure that out.
This is how linux works for last 30 years…
Except now you dont need to worry about outdated version even on a super stable distro.
You get proper permission control and a mispackaged app cannot break the entire system.
How did this come up in discussion?
How did this come up in discussion?
Because permission control is what most people expect on phone application, which is another way linux has great default UX that is similar to what happens on phones.
Finally, I don’t think a mispackaged app is supposed to be able to break out of the application sandbox, unless some bug is exploited.
Unless you are referring to the fact that some app are packaged with overly-permissive default permissions. But most people can change the default permission, and only grant permissions that makes sense.
Finally, I don’t think a mispackaged app is supposed to be able to break out of the application sandbox, unless some bug is exploited.
At least one of mentioned formats(AppImage) is regular executable. There is no need to break out of sandboxing when maintainer didn’t put it in sandbox in the first place.
Anyway, mainline distros have selinux or apparmor profiles. Sanboxing exists outside of three yet another “universal” package formats.
But most people can change the default permission, and only grant permissions that makes sense.
You mean people who package or end users?
I mean user can manage permissions to override the default, like apps on other platforms.
Basically how it is and was before mega-binaries.