StrikerThe truth about Canada
rbesfeThe N in lemmy stands for nuance
I fail to see the nuance in situations like residential schools. Could you perhaps educate me so I can come to a more informed conclusion than sending thousands of indigenous Canadians to schools designed to stripped them of their culture is a bad thing to do.
Oh we’re not even talking about all the ones they straight up murdered and successfully hid for decades in mass graves?
Or the forced sterilisations of indigenous women… many of these things happening in recent years…
olicvbI swear i saw this exact post and exchange like 3 months ago O.O
Maybe you’re a time traveller! If I were you, I would use this power for the silliest things as long as they’re funny.
I’ll try and not mess the timeline too much <3
When you piss in the primordial ooze, try to hit one of the clumps that will eventually crawl out of the ocean and lead to my genetic line.
Trust me, that proto-lifeform earned it.
Historical_GeneralThen don’t reveal that you’re a time traveller blabbermouth!
There were no forced sterilization of indigenous women in Canada on the basis of them being indigenous.
BC and Albert did use forced sterilization on inmates, homosexuals and mental hosiptal releases.
Indigenous women have been talked into sterilization though the years for the same racist eugenics law but that is very different than being forced.
Down one all you want. Dipshit echo chamber.
Lemmy leans significantly harder left than Reddit did, I think. It’s hard to have discussions about any of the leftist talking points.
Thankfully lemmy also doesn’t have karma so who tf cares, right?
jabathekekTruly, but enough people block you because you’re being a insensitive piece of shit, you’ll eventually see barely any new posts or comments.
Who’s being insensitive?
CileTheSane“Am I out of touch? No, it must be an echo chamber.”
There was no forced sterilization… but it was very incentivized, oh and inmates were forced to. Not the hottest take but nice aerobatics nonetheless
Decades? The “Starlight Tours” have been happening more recently than that.
Oh, you’re talking about the other thing. Too many of them to keep track of…
Starlight tours are so fucked up man
trainsaresexyT&R is a thing
The country has acknowledged the atrocities of residential schools for many years. If you want to criticize the current state of affairs by all means go ahead, but you are not contributing to the discussion in any way by pointing out residential schools were a bad thing.
There is a large portion of the country that still denies it. In catholic schools they don’t take that native remembrance holiday off. Which is crazy to me.
BC just had the conservative party leader saying residential schools and SOGI are the same thing.
What’s SOGI
Sexual orientation and gender identity.
Oh. What a fucking idiot. How did he say they’re the same?
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The R in lemmy stands for Reasonable discussion
Ok but at least explain where the nuance is missing?
Well for one there’s been leaps and bounds in paying reparations to first Nations groups, and despite not paying taxes they still get regular economic, infrastructure, and other help from the government.
It’s not a perfect situation and progress is needed, but reductive posts like this do nothing to help the discussion up here. Our own problems get drowned out by Americans simplifying the situation for their small brains and regurgitating it
And 9/10 times when you see one of these posts, it’s from an American (and/or largely commented on by Americans saying “Canada bad!”)
We spent a hundred years as allies, and then the two dumbest presidents to ever exist poisoned our relationship, and now the only time an American even mentions Canada it’s either to dunk on us for their own satisfaction or to make an argument in their senseless “Left” vs “Right” culture war screaming match.
I hated it at the time, but I legitimately miss the days when it was all “eh” and “hoser” and “maple syrup”, sure it meant they didn’t know anything about us, but at least it wasn’t this endless negativity.
I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about, left leaning Americans seem to talk about Canada positively all of the time, in reference to its health care system and generally aboit how they want their country to be more like Canada. The only thing negative they say is in reference how native people have been treated and still continue to be treated there which I think is right.
I am not from either country and this is just based on what I see Americans online say about Canada/Canadians.
You mean they mention us when it is politically convenient for them?
IninewCrowIndigenous rights in Canada is like the silent ‘b’ in doubt
It’s there, no one pronounces it and everyone hates it when they have to write it.
🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑As someone with English as their second, not first language…
THE B IS SILENT? I ALWAYS PRONOUNCED IT. DID I DO IT WRONG?
Yes. Please tell me you don’t also pronounce the K in knife.
I kenow better
Yes, you did it wrong.
There is no nuance in human rights.
Also, this is lemmyshitpost, tf you want
The leaf hides a bunch if Nazi runes.
Canada influenced the Nazis, not the other way around.
Fucking excuse me?
Hitler’s American model describes Hitler’s dreams to match the power of the colonial powers of the day, Britain and France. But his inspiration came from the colonies themselves. In this book the American legal realist systems with regard to race is explored, rather than canadian systems, but clearly Canada is not very different in that regard.
Some highlights:
- The Nazis found that the one-drop rule was too harsh - (only because mixed Jews were somewhat white-passing whereas mixed Black people couldn’t pass and remained legally Black).
- Manifest Destiny inspired Lebensraum (probably Canada and Australia too).
- Nazi Race Law/Blood laws and second class citizenship laws for Jews were inspired by similar laws in the US.
You literally named USA for all 3, get the fuck out of here you hatemonger. The fuck is wrong with you spreading disinformation like this?
I’m describing the ‘highlights’ in the book you illiterate. What’s difficult to understand?
Canada is a state, its not possible to hate-crime Canada you twat.
Who the fuck said hate crime? And your highlights were all the USA so why the fuck would I read your trash book?
You’re fostering hate against another country, nobody said it was a crime but you’re telling lies to discredit a country for no apparent reason.
Blocked, goodbye hatemonger.
Are you denying that Canada is a colonial project?
Unlikely, seeing as Canada didn’t achieve full legal autonomy until 1982.
Runes are not nazi. Use by Nazis is misappropriation of Norse mythology.
so is the swastika but you still get banned from Minecraft servers for building one at spawn 😡
I wouldn’t know.
That’s not fair. It was only last weekend we had a national holiday to celebrate how we treated the natives.
… Is that a celebration or a remembrance?
I mean, if you give people a long weekend they’re gonna celebrate.
ANGRY_MAPLEYou also have to love how it’s a federal holiday in some places. People who work for the government got the day off, but there was practically nothing for the legit indigenous other than seeing people wearing orange shirts.
Idk, it’s weird to me because the government played a massive role in what happened. It’s odd that the provincial government gave themselves a long weekend over it.
We crammed it into the calendar immediately before Thanksgiving, where we celebrate what we did to the natives.
Thanksgiving, where we celebrate what we did to the natives.
Despite all the awful things that settlers have done to Aboriginals in Canada (and Native Americans in the USA), neither country’s Thanksgiving is about that. Canada’s Thanksgiving was originally a celebration of arrival in the New World. Over time, it became a harvest celebration.
I’ve got a shit ton of vegetables from my garden. I’m thankful for that and I’m going to share them with my friends.
The arrival that led to the murder of the indigenous
SpaceCowboyBe sure to also avoid any Oktoberfest celebrations this month! After all it lead to the murder of 12 million people!
Or is it possible to celebrate German culture without constantly bringing up horrible things Germans have done in history? Maybe it’s possible that it wasn’t beer and lederhosen that lead to genocide?
Could it also be that eating a turkey dinner with your family also doesn’t lead to genocide?
Nah, internet says we should be angry about thanksgiving, so let’s not do any critical thinking about it! BE ANGRY!!!