sbvOct 5, 2023

Canada’s birth rate has dropped off a cliff (and it’s likely because nobody can afford housing)

https://sh.itjust.works/post/6603253

Canada’s birth rate has dropped off a cliff (and it’s likely because nobody can afford housing) - sh.itjust.works

> Statistics Canada confirmed last week that 351,679 babies were born in 2022 — the lowest number of live births since 345,044 births were recorded in 2005. > > The disparity is all the more notable given that Canada had just 32 million people in 2005, as compared to the 40 million it counted by the end of 2022. In 2005, it was already at historic lows for Canada to have a fertility rate of 1.57 births per woman. But given the 2022 figures, that fertility rate has now sunk to 1.33. … > Of Canadians in their 20s, Statistics Canada found that 38 per cent of them “did not believe they could afford to have a child in the next three years” — with about that same number (32 per cent) saying they doubted they’d be able to find “suitable housing” in which to care for a baby. … > A January survey by the Angus Reid Group asked women to list the ideal size of their family against its actual size, and concluded that the average Canadian woman reached the end of their childbearing years with 0.5 fewer children than they would have wanted > “In Canada, unlike many other countries, fertility rates and desires rise with income: richer Canadians have more children,” it read.

Show threadShowroom7561Oct 5, 2023

Considering that if you aren’t making a lot, you can get quite a bit of money every month for each kid through child benefits until they are 18, I don’t think the cost of housing is the issue.

Here’s a radical thought: Maybe people simply don’t want to be burdened by kids.

Perhaps if we stopped pressuring mothers into believing that they NEED to have kids, or that couples can’t be complete without a real family.

Maybe then we can start normalizing the fact that not everyone actually wants (or needs) kids.

Show threadjusthachOct 5, 2023

I can attest from personal experience, finances are 100% the reason me and my partner can’t have kids right now. Its very hard to justify brining a kid into this world when its hard to maintain stability for 2 adults, let alone with the costs required to raise a child.

We were evicted from our last home for no other reason than the greed of our landlord. That stress would have been tenfold if we had to go through that with kids.

Show threadShowroom7561Oct 5, 2023

I can attest from personal experience, finances are 100% the reason me and my partner can’t have kids right now.

And government child benefits wouldn’t help? If you are struggling that much (and I don’t suggest having a kid if you are struggling at all), the government will pay you monthly for the next 18 years that you have a child…

I think you need to look beyond finances to make this decision, though. Do you have the energy and time for a kid? Are you willing to put all your plans on hold for the foreseeable future, potentially burden your relationship, for a child? Will you be able to quit your job to spend your entire day caring for a child with special needs? Are you willing to care for that child beyond age 18, when the financial burden of supporting them (a third adult) could jeopardize your retirement?

The decision to have a child shouldn’t be made lightly, regardless of how strong society pushes for it. Neither should the decision to have pets, but I digress.

I do wish you and your partner all the best, and hope that you find more financial stability in your lives.

Show threadPupBiruOct 5, 2023
the amount that any government pays you when you have a child is a pittance compared to the cost of having a child… especially if you want to do more than simply scrape by and have like… christmas, birthdays…
Show threadUranium3006
That's another thing. Being able to afford the bare minimum isn't enough to justify having kids. People who grew up in poverty say it sucked and it's better to have fewer kids than have them live in poverty
Oct 5, 2023 at 9:22pmWeb