Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x06 "Parth Ferengi's Heart Place"
Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Lower Decks | 4x06 "Parth Ferengi's Heart Place"
We know that by 2400 there are Ferengi cadets graduating from Starfleet Academy and by the 32nd Century there’s even a Ferengi Captain, among other Ferengi officers.
While not being a Federation member doesn’t preclude you from serving in Starfleet, there’s that to consider.
We see people enslaved in mines for lying about being a couple to get a discount at a restaurant!
I do wonder if that was actually an arranged bit of entertainment, with the (alleged) punishment trumped up for the sake of it. Ferengi do like to put on a show.
I can honestly see them pulling the trigger on it at the end of this season. This season’s pretty emphatically pushing the gang past their former status quo-- Mariner has supportive superiors, now what? Boimler is in charge sometimes, now what? Figuring this romance situation out would just be running with the theme of growth and change.
I’m happy either way they end up, although I think Rutherford’s comment about green eyes is telegraphing there’s something there, even if he and Tendi are oblivious to it.
I’ve been shipping them since Rutherford told Badgey, “I was just trying to impress Tendi. I mean, look at her, she’s so cute!” Earlier that same ep they’re in the holodeck in the EV suits and they accidentally embrace (due to mag boots) which mirrors the B’Elanna and Tom scene where B’Elanna told Tom she loved him.
But if you really think about it, they’ve been hinting at the crush since the beginning. He was willing to change his career to make the time to watch a pulsar with her (which was episode 2). When Tendi thought T’ana was transferring her off the ship, they tell each other how much they love the ship and hug. Later that ep he tells Billups he’s been triple backing up memories with her because he doesn’t want to forget her again. (Notably he doesn’t mention backing up memories with Mariner or Boimler.) They’ve always just a little closer than best friends, and damned if it isn’t adorable!
how much they love the ship
Holy ship!
I always headcanoned that Rom was very quickly fired after DS9… but I have to admit this episode did an excellent job conveying that with Leeta at his side, he’s got quite good job security. … and wasn’t that the Sense-Ores admiral?
I liked catching up with Marinier’s Ferengi friend from back in S1. Kinda wish they did a little bit more with that plot.
I tend to feel awkward when I see characters acting awkward… to that extent I had a little trouble getting through Tendi and Rutherford’s story. I like them more when they get to be big nerds—which we admittedly had quite a bit of this episode.
Beyond that… I find it interesting that the Parlament class now has a CGI model. Lower Decks traditionally saves the CGI budget for ships that get into combat or major fan service. The Parlament vessel doesn’t really qualify for either in this episode. I wonder if it’s going to be a casualty of the mystery ship later in the season.
Also, did I hear right that the Ferengi Lower Decker was in communication with the mysterious vessel?
Also, did I hear right that the Ferengi Lower Decker was in communication with the mysterious vessel?
That’s what I got too. He was both expecting them, and also said they told him they’d make a lot of profit.
Also… Parliament :) Canadians see the word often 😄
I always headcanoned that Rom was very quickly fired after DS9…
As Grand Nagus, I don’t think there’s anyone higher up to fire him. The position is a weird cross of king, CEO, and Pope. Only death or resignation seems to be able to oust a Grand Nagus.
The Ferengi starship appears to be a variant of that owned by the Ferengi merchant Ulis in 2151 (ENT: “Acquisition”). Rom became the Grand Nagus in DS9: “The Dogs of War”, Zek appointing Rom as his successor to carry on his reforms to create a kinder, gentler Ferenginar. The Genesis Device is of course the central McGuffin of ST II. The one that blew up and created the Genesis Planet was thought to be the only one, but we’ve seen another model stored in Daystrom Station (PIC: “The Bounty”). “He thinks Rom is the next Lonz.” A deep cut, Lonz was the most famlus nose flute player in Ferengi history, also known as “Old Golden Nostril” (DS9 book: Legends of the Ferengi). Rule of Acquisition No. 62: “The riskier the road, the greater the profit”, was first mentioned in DS9: “Rules of Acquisition”, among other episodes. The Stardate is 58901.5. The Ferengi Alliance wanting to join the Federation is a huge deal. Although Nog was the first Ferengi in Starfleet (DS9: “Heart of Stone”), by 2400, there will be more Ferengi cadets in Starfleet Academy (PIC: “The Star Gazer”, a Ferengi flag is being flown during commencement among other flags showing the composition of the graduating class), and by the 32nd Century, Ferengi officers are seen frequently, even a Captain (DIS: “Anomaly”). The foods being served on board the USS Toronto (NCC-70494) include a bowl of Ferengi tube grubs (DS9: “Homefront”), cheese cut out in Starfleet delta shapes and a wooden serving board in the shape of a Galaxy-class cruiser. The bald Admiral is Vassery, who commanded Douglas Station and was the one Mariner mocked for his pronunciation of “sen-soar” (LD: “Moist Vessel”). He also appeared in Mariner’s holoprogram (LD: “Crisis Point”). Moab IV is the location of the Genome Colony, a self-contained domed community of genetically and socially-engineered society (TNG: “The Masterpiece Society”). The environment outside the dome was uninhabitable at the time the Enterprise-D visited, so Vassery’s joke might mean that has changed. Or is is just a bad joke. The 10th Rule of Acquisition is “Greed is eternal”; Freeman trying to quote this expresses her skepticism about Ferenginar’s application. Leeta’s title as “First Clerk” is the first appearance of this title to refer to the Nagus’ consort. Rom and her are accompanied by what seems to be a female Hupyrian. The species is known to be favorites of the Grand Naguses as servants, bodyguards and food tasters due to their devotion to their masters and their vows of silence to anyone other than their master. Zek’s male servant was Maihar’du (DS9: “The Nagus”). I got to admit, the Ceremonial Invoice and the “Friends and Family Discount” made me spit out my soda. God, I’ve missed the Ferengi - the DS9 development of them, specifically. Yes, Quark made an appearance in DS9: “Hear All, Trust Nothing”, but still. Self-sealing stem bolts are a component that nobody is quite sure what they do or what they’re for, except that they’re self-sealing. And are stem bolts (DS9: “Progress”). For the record, “Lieutenants junior grade” is the grammatically correct usage. Much like it’s “Attorneys-General” and not “Attorney-Generals”. There have been two travel guides published in the real world for Star Trek under the Hidden Universe Travel Guides banner: one for the Klingon Empire and the other for Vulcan. I also love the fact that the Cerritos is statistically the horniest and least committed crew in Starfleet because that tracks so much. Finishing each other’s diophantine equations (polynomial equations where only integer solutions are allowed) could be a reference to a classic gag from Arrested Development where Michael says about Nellie, that they finish each other’s… and Lindsay chimes in with “Sandwiches?” to Michael’s bewilderment. The same joke coincidentally shows up in That 70s Show and as part of the song “Love is an Open Door” in Frozen. Honus is the ship’s bartender (LD: “Mugato, Gumato”) and Nurse Westlake (LD: “Second Contact”) is named for Chris Westlake, the composer for LD. We see a Ferengi shuttle (DS9: “Little Green Men”) flying by as we approach Ferenginar, on which it is always raining (DS9: “Family Business”). The Ferengi language has 178 words for rain (and none for “crisp”), rather like the hundreds of words Inuits use to describe various types of snow. The tall building dominating the skyline is the Ferengi Tower of Commerce, the capital building of the government (DS9: “Prophet Motive”). Signs advertise All You Can @#S%!, Slug-O-Cola (DS9: “Profit and Lace”), Uncle Quark’s Youth Casino, Maxium Oo-Mox Rub Dungeon, Acquire Pour Homme, Lobe’s Lodge, Slug-Nasium. A marquee says “Now Playing: Latinum Lost!!!” which may be a reference to the Litverse novella Lust’s Latinum Lost (and Found), which centers around the erotic holonovel of the same title. The things on Boimler’s to-do list are: * Drop off Bags * Hotel Room Inspection: Mini Bar, Toilet, Pay Wall * View Screen Inspected * Museum of Bribery * Ferengi Center for Forged Arts * Ferengi Hall of Fame Gift Shop (Hall of Fame Coming Soon The size of Ferengi lobes is a status symbol, which is what the Slug-O-Cola commercial plays on. Quimp appeared in LD: “Envoys”, meeting Mariner on Tulgana IV, staging a fake attack to boost Boimler’s confidence. Oberth-classes (like the USS Grissom from ST III) take a lot of flak. T’Ana once screamed that she didn’t spend 7 years on one just to get reassigned to a station (LD: “The Stars at Night”). The “dagger of the mind” drink probably refers to TOS: “Dagger of the Mind” where a neural neutralizer empties a mind and makes it susceptible to suggestion. Rom was on Sisko’s baseball team, the Niners, in DS9: “Take Me Out to the Holosuite” and scored the only run for the team in that game. The unicorn dog in the Ferengi landlord cop show is of the species from Alfa 177 (TOS: “The Enemy Within”). We last saw one of them in the menagerie in LD: “I Have No Bones Yet I Must Flee”. As Boimler laughs about product placement he is sitting in front of the Paramount logo. Parth is using a holographic imager, but oddly enough closer to the Starfleet design (last seen in SNW: “Those Old Scientists”) rather than a Ferengi one (DS9: “Meridian”). Mariner and Quimp play dabo (DS9: “Babel”) at the Ferenginar Historical Library. Quark’s Federation Experience Bar & Grill (referring to the late lamented Las Vegas Star Trek Experience), has models of the Voyager and Enterprise-D hanging from the ceiling as the TNG theme tune plays. Among the decor are signs that say Engineering, Ten Forward, Where No Gift Has Gone Before, Jeffries Tube Entrance and Red Shirts and Holodeck Arca. You enter the place between two TOS-style nacelles and are greeted by a Ferengi with a Vulcan hairstyle and eyebrows in a blue science division uniform. On display are a Mugato (TOS: “A Private Little War”), the Guardian of Forever (TOS: “The City on the Edge of Forever”), a Vulcan gong in the arena from TOS: “Amok Time” and a Taurean ape-man with a spear from TOS: “The Galileo Seven”. Tendi and Rutherford are seated at a table whose wall panels have a TOS-style red trim and chairs from that era. The Red Alert sound has of course been standard since TOS. The Ferengi bouncers are dressed in TNG-era security uniforms. Sitting weird in chairs is a stereotype for bisexuals, of which Mariner is one. Naturally, the Ferengi Dominion War Memorial remembers the profits lost during that conflict. The blind box is modeled on a TOS-era shuttle. We see a rocky backdrop for one of the tables that might be Sarpeidon from TOS: “All Our Yesterdays”. The 8th Rule of Acquisition, “Small print leads to large risk” from the beta canon book The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition. The Ferengi dragging Boimler out of his room is using a Ferengi energy whip (TNG: “The Last Outpost).
I dislike cringe humor and watching characters be uncomfortable, so I didn’t love the Rutherford/Tendi plotline, but there were enough cute moments in there to make it worthwhile. It feels like the show is openly baiting “shippers” at every opportunity, and this is the most flagrant example yet.
With that said - and making no claims about if romance is in any way necessary or inevitable here - these two being so close is adorable.
For a therapist, Migleemo is either really bad at reading other people’s emotions, or deviously brilliant at appearing clueless. Possibly both?
I appreciate the continued development of Mariner as a person who keeps getting in her own way, slowly coming to terms with that and trying to figure out what to do about it. It’s a problem I don’t relate to at all in the specifics, but the more general “why do I keep doing this” is very easy to connect to, and I know I’m not alone in that. Her Ferengi friend laying it all out for her here seems like an important step, and I wonder where she’s going to turn next.
This probably deserves a deeper dive at some point, but the further we go the more I see Mariner’s path as a more realistic and relatable trajectory for Michael Burnham to have taken. Both are superbly talented people capable of great things. Both are also reckless, supremely overconfident in their own judgement, and prone to self destructive behavior, all of which combines to put them and those around them in dangerous situations. Burnham in S1 right before the Mirror Universe jump and Mariner in the first episode of Lower Decks are in fairly similar places, both having been recently bumped down from more senior positions due to major fuckups. This is where their paths diverge: both continue to display all the behaviors that got them in trouble, but Mariner remains a lower decker on relatively unimportant assignments, with both her strengths and weaknesses clearly recognized by her superiors. Burnham, meanwhile, is fully returned to her previous high station and even promoted beyond that because her most problematic behaviors are improbably rewarded by a universe which places her in the middle of multiple extraordinarily significant events. I strongly related to S1 Burnham, and really wanted to see her grapple with her weaknesses and develop into a better person and officer over time. I didn’t get that opportunity, but Mariner gives a second chance at telling that slow-burn story and thus far, Lower Decks has done very well with it.
I’ve authorized the local authorities to drag you out of there. Just go limp. Don’t fight them.
Oh man Ransom is becoming one of my favorite characters.
I enjoy the exploration of Ferengi society under Grand Nagus Rom, and visiting some of Ferenginar’s hot spots. I also enjoy seeing Rom and Leeta again. I love the subversion of Rom’s doofiness, and how well Leeta adapted to Ferengi society. First Clerk, indeed. Freeman’s frustration was my frustration, but it had a satisfying ending.
I didn’t enjoy the lower deck gang’s shenanigans as much. There were fun moments, but it felt like a drag on the characters. Mariner’s fighting just to be fighting. She has grown a lot over the past seasons. Her undefined angry outburst in this episode seemed pointless. There’s nothing keeping JG Lieutenant Mariner from her Ensign Mariner renegade behavior and schemes. Boimler has completely backslid into the previously uncertain, twitchy, insecure Boimler. There’s no sign of “Crisis Point 2: Paradoxus’” (s3e8) “I want to be a captain” Tendi.
Rutherford and Tendi’s discomfort pretending to be a couple made me uncomfortable. They’ve clearly been sweet on each other for a while. I could have done without forcing them into this pretend couple scenario, and let their relationship develop at its previous pace. I think Mariner and Boimler being the pretend couple had the potential to be hilarious. And, what the heck. No T’Lyn? Much disappointment.
I think Ransom is the standout in this episode.
The destroyed (maybe? maybe not?) ship of the week is a Ferenghi one. There was the tiniest hint, that one of the crew had been in contact with who or whatever is on that flying ship of destruction. With only 4 episodes left, I hope that ship has a huge payoff after being teased for so long.
I still love Lower Decks. This episode is a mixed bag for me.
Mariner’s fighting just to be fighting. She has grown a lot over the past seasons. Her undefined angry outburst in this episode seemed pointless. There’s nothing keeping JG Lieutenant Mariner from her Ensign Mariner renegade behavior and schemes.
Seems realistic to me. Have you never watched someone spend so long fighting that even peace starts to make them uneasy?
It’s hard watching your loved ones go through it. You do all you can to get them on the right track. You show them that you believe in them and that you support them. They start making progress. They get to a good place. And then inevitably they run into the identity crisis where they have to make a conscious decision to unlearn all of their unconscious insecurities and defense mechanisms.
They literally start fighting their progress for no reason.
Mariner’s depiction with a physical fight was a little on the nose, but it hits really close to home for anyone who has ever supported someone in that way before.
It’s a fear response, and it’s extremely difficult to break the cycle. “Everything is okay! Wait, is it too okay? Something bad is coming.”
Rutherford and Tendi’s discomfort pretending to be a couple made me uncomfortable. They’ve clearly been sweet on each other for a while. I could have done without forcing them into this pretend couple scenario, and let their relationship develop at its previous pace.
If anything it felt a little like a reality check for all the shippers. I was afraid they were going to play it the other direction, with the two of them actually falling for each other once they were in the position of role-playing. Feels like they set the record straight that the romantic chemistry is not there right now and that it won’t be forced.
It’s Rom! From Star Trek!
Rom likes baseball!
It was really great to not only see Leeta again, but to see her as quite the shrewd negotiator. DS9 played them both as a little naive at different points, so it was extremely gratifying to see the continuation of their growth as well as the very sharp skills that Leeta picked up along the way on Ferenginar.