ovayGoogle Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro released. Thoughts?
I_Am_Jacks_____I’m disappointed that the Pixel 8 is 6.2" instead of 6". I really wanted to support the smaller form factor, but since it’s not as small as I wanted, I may end up going for the 8 Pro.
MereoBut I always ask myself, do I really need all these features? Am I really going to use them?
After this introspection, I realized that one-handed use is much more important to me than many futures companies suggest.
on the other side, they’re reducing 0.1 inches every year
6-6.4" 7-6.3" 8-6.2"
Taasz/WoofThe specs on the 8 look solid, but I wonder if they’ve improved cell radio performance and the fingerprint sensor over the previous models.
falkerie71I’m disappointed that so many features seem locked to the Pro and not the regular P8, and a lot of them don’t make sense to me.
A lot of the AI stuff they talked about towards the end of the keynote seem to be locked with the P8P, even though the regular P8 shares the same chip so it has no reason not to be able to do the same things. Why?
Video Boost also seems to be locked to the P8P, even though they share the same chip and half of it is even run in the cloud and not on device, along with manual camera controls, which I think should be a basic feature every phone camera should have.
I was originally eyeing the P8P already, but I’m going to wait for reviews before making a decision. I currently have the P6a, and I already feel frustrated that a few software features like motion mode do not get updated to the earlier models. I feel the same frustration for people who want a regular P8 but are going to be missing out on software features not limited by hardware.
Was considering P8, but I feel like they neglected it for P8pro.
There’s just so much dark patterns and price gaming. It’s so exhausting to just buy a phone. Do you want this 128gb that stores 50 photos or you actually spend +80usd for slightly more usable option of 256gb? Its all artificial bullshit.
At these prices, you’re better off buying an iPhone. Check Google’s trade-in price, it’s a goddamn insult.
Except an iPhone doesn’t allow me to do any of the stuff Android does…
I’m tempted by the iPhone 15 Pro. I’m not sure I can deal with iOS though after not using it since the iPhone 4S.
It’s only when I start to look around that there are actually a number of features the Pixel/Android has that I’d really miss.
Call screen Now playing Using a different browser Google Assistant Proper widgets
You mean a phone with a 60 hz screen like its 2019?
Google was at $600 with trade in for their pixel 8 pro and free watch thrown in.
Wanted to stick with pixel but just ordered the iPhone 15 and their watch.
Really not impressed with either of those brands but Android is really lacking.
whileloopThinking about trading in my P4a for a P8, was offered $200 off if I did. Should I pull the trigger or do you all think Black Friday will have a better deal?
Then I thought of a crazy scheme: trade in my 4a so the P8 is $500 instead of $700, then accept the free Pixel Buds Pro offer and resell them so it’s ~$300 instead.
RegalPotooYou might have a hard time selling the buds at or near MSRP cos I suspect a lot of people will be doing the same
I’m excited to see pixel grow but why are we accepting this storage bullshit? 128GB in 2023? Why do we tolerate this storage extortion. Hard drive space costs almost nothing.
You don’t have to accept it, just buy something else. That’s the beauty of Android. I’m using an Xperia 1 IV and really like it. The Mark V is better with heat and a few other things but not enough to switch right away. 512 GB internal, SD card slot, headphone jack… basically everything phone buyers complain about getting removed are all available in one package.
It’s a dark pattern and a trend. It has nothing to do with “accepting it”
Fine, I used a synonym instead of the exact word you used “tolerate”. The point is, the power to tolerate this or not is still in your hands. If we only talk and complain, but don’t actually reward with our business the companies who do what we say we want, then the future will absolutely be no on board storage, cloud connected, personal-data-harvesting everything.
So it kind of does have something to do with accepting (or not) these things.
Nah I don’t see any reason to tolerate shitty, greedy practice. I’m calling them out not discussing about practical viability.
How’s the heat with your phone? Was looking at a 5 IV but the potential heating issues has me worried.
Overall not too bad, but using the camera, and especially recording video, will cause it to overheat and ask you to take a break much quicker than it really should. Honestly that’s not a minor issue I guess when one of the main features forces you to stop using it after a relatively brief time. I think the 5 series is better at managing that though.
BOMBSThey could also spend an extra $50 for the 256GB one.
Also a viable option…
Extra 60$ and thats exactly the problem with discussing this as people defend it by straight up lying. It’s always a little bit like oh it’s just a few extra dollars or it’s like 5 when it’s 10 and it creates this delusion that just enforces this dark pattern.
And what happens when that runs out?
I wouldn’t be opposed to 128GB if the price made sense for it. I’m only using 64GB on my current phone, and it also had 128GB.
Would seriously consider an iPhone if they offered the 1tb on the non pro model and didn’t skyrocket the price.
I’m not arguing against your point at all because that seems like a personal matter. However, I am interested in knowing how the typical person uses more than 128GB of storage space. Aside from people with interests that require more space (eg a photographer or traveler), what do people have on their phones that take up more than 128GB of storage space?
pruneaueI mainly agree with you, i have enough of 128gb. But i know a lot of people that take a ton of pictures and struggle with storage space
Dude android games these days are 10gb+
My point being is that the production cost between 256gb and 128gb driver is almost identical and the phone manufacturers purposefully gimp the product to upsell some random bullshit.
And how many people play these games? I don’t know a single person that does. For all these people, that much storage would be a waste.
Literally billions of people. Like people forget smart phone games are so far ahead by user count that a single game often has more players than ALL gaming consoles COMBINED. I’m not saying it’s great, I’m just saying it’s wildly popular.
Ya, because it’s full of children. The games you are talking about are games like Minecraft, where their parents won’t buy them a computer or console, but they will run it at 20fps on their random tablet.
genshin impact has left the chat.
Eh, gatekeeping is so 2020
I have almost 40 GB of music alone.
Wowww! That’s a lot of music. How did you find so much music you like??
I’m pretty old, and like a lot of different stuff, so it adds up.
That’s like 5 Tidal albums 🫣
Those flac files get big fast
LCPPhotos (I like to shoot RAW+JPEG), videos and music. Pixels don’t come with micro SD card slots, and other manufacturers have been getting rid of it as well.
Even apps these days are at least 100-200 MB.
Interesting! How do phones typically encode their files, and what are the benefits of shooting RAW+JPEG?
RAW files contain the raw, unprocessed information from the camera’s sensor, whereas the JPEGs have the device manufacturer’s processing on them. RAW images provide a lot of flexibility when editing in applications like Adobe Lightroom. You can recover a lot of detail you otherwise might lose in JPEGs. After processing them you export them as JPEGs.
Here’s a good example I found online:
They take up a lot of space. A picture of my housemate’s cat was 3.2 MB in JPEG and 16.6 MB in RAW.
woah, that’s super cool! thanks for sharing and providing an example 🙂
That still doesn’t answer the question though. I have photos and music on my phone and I still have 60+ GB of free storage
I just happen to have more photos, videos, music and apps than you.
How long have you had your phone for? I’ve had my Pixel 6a for just over a year now.
Here’s one example: An Insta 360 camera for a single 10 minute video can produce upwards of 10gb of data.
Those video files can only really be transferred to your phone for editing and sharing.
That’s ONE example that doesn’t include gaming (a highly mainstream community) that also requires gigabytes of storage.
Pixel 7 pro 256gb model checking in. I don’t take a bunch of pictures and videos but I also hardly ever delete anything and I take pictures and videos in the highest possible quality I can. My phone has 100gb of storage left between apps and media.
Loads of FLAC music, track / map storage for offline camping / offroad, offline music downloads from Deezer (Hi-Res) for playback without network.
I dont know how, but i have currently 68gb of App data on my phone. Im a photographer and traveler and i already try to push photos to cloud. But sometimes its not possible. So im happy about 256gb, so i dont need to care.
I want to switch to a Pixel 8 Pro, but im considered with that price tag and i need to pay 70€ for additional 128gb of storage…
I mean they promoted it with more MP cameras and better video, that will all take up storage.
I think its fair to call it BS not starting with 256gb as a basis.
I personally like to go camping, offroading, sometimes hiking. The camping can be for days at a time in places with margin cellular signal. So I personally like having GBs and GBs of mp3s loaded onto my device to listen to.
Probably not a typical use case, but 64+ GB of music isn’t out of the question at all for me
Needed to upgrade my pixel 6 pro and was waiting on what they’d come out with.
I just ordered the iPhone and their watch. Really disappointed with pixel and mostly their watch.
Two of the reasons why I chose a Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) over a Pixel 6a with much better other specs was that it has 256GB internal storage and that it has a MicroSDXC slot vs 128GB and no slot. This stuff matters to me.
I guess I’m the only one who uses phone storage like slow motion swap.
Stuff gets migrated off my phone to my own backup a few times a month
Google wants you to use cloud storage.
Obviously yeah. Apple even has a monopoly on their cloud solution so it’s even a more extreme example.
I love Google Photos but it makes me feel dirty when they do me like that.
remoteloveI have a Pixel 6 Pro and looking at the raw specs, there is no justification for an upgrade.
The prices differences are weird as well. For my upgrade, it would be $549 for the Pixel 7 Pro and $599 for the Pixel 8 Pro?
Aside from some camera differences, these phones have flat-lined.
I also have a Pixel 6 Pro, and agree with your arguments. The specs look almost the same. However, the differences that do stick out to me are that the 8 comes with a Pixel Watch 2, better camera software, and 7 years of OS updates. With the trade-in, it seems like it might be worth the upgrade for me.
Ok, I didn’t see the offer for the watch. Interesting!
The update issue seems artificial, but I could be wrong. There are different hardware components (requires different kernel drivers) and also a big CPU update, so that could be part of maintaining updates for an older Pixel phone. (Game performance is a non-issue for me since I don’t game on my phone at all.)
While I get that it is problematic for manufacturers to stop updating old hardware, it doesn’t make sense to me why they would stop in this case. (Oct 2024/Oct 2026 for the Pixel 6 Pro)
(Just a little questioning/rant, s’all. Please excuse it.)