InfiniteGlitchOct 3, 2023

A more conservative community without the hate

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/5510333

A more conservative community without the hate - Divisions by zero

So, I’m more conservative leaning (European wise) but everywhere I go - the communities are usually filled with so much hate. That I just avoid it. Is there any place that I can go where there’s not so much based on hate but more on actual discussions and such? Though, I have been told that - European wise, it is considered more leaning to left in eyes of US. So bit confused. Note; please keep it civil.

Show threadRhynoplazOct 3, 2023

Maybe to help put it in perspective for you, American Conservativism is very concerned with taking rights away from anyone who isn’t a financially stable, straight, Christian white man.

I’m not sure where a European conservative fits in the scale, and I’d love to learn if you’re willing to share, but when Americans hear conservative, our first thoughts are “Racist Nazi supporter”

Show threadInfiniteGlitchOct 3, 2023

Ouch, didn’t expect that.

I’m more traditional and well, Islamic/Muslim (I’m half European and half Arab).

However, I don’t care what anyone else does with their lives. I just live mine and that’s my business (as in why should I put my nose in someone’s else’s business).

It isn’t that I want right to be taken away, not at all. But I’d believe, if one does put hard work in it - the person can achieve it (almost always). I do also believe rights for everyone and just a specific ethnicity/race etc.

I also do believe more in the traditional family kind of thing (husband working, woman taking care of the household and both of them taking care of the children).

The thing is, I lean “centrum right” whenever - I’d official tests from my country. So, I’m curious how a non-hateful environment of conservatism is.

Do want to make a note that I genuine dislike nazism. The shit they done is awful, can’t even find the words to describe it.

Show threadmeco03211Oct 3, 2023

I also do believe more in the traditional family kind of thing (husband working, wife taking care of the household and both of them taking care of the children).

What if the family has two dads? Or two moms?

Show threadInfiniteGlitchOct 3, 2023

I honestly would not care since it is not my life. They’re happy? Good, let them be. None of my business.

It is true that my religion says it is wrong, however it is my religion. I believe in it, they don’t. So, who am I to bother them?

Show threadmetaStaticOct 3, 2023
I would call that Socially liberal. Maybe, as others have already said, you should re-evaluate your political standing. You might not be as conservative as you think.
Show threadxigoi
That’s an American-centric position. In Europe, there are right-wing parties that don’t oppose gay rights.
Oct 4, 2023 at 9:03amWeb
Show threadDibbixOct 4, 2023

No, you’re right… they don’t openly oppose gay rights. Yet. They’re merely xenophobic racists.

Linguist Ruth Wodak has stated that the populist parties rising across Europe do so for different reasons in different countries. In an article published in March 2014, she divided these political parties into four groups: “parties [which] gain support via an ambivalent relationship with fascist and Nazi pasts” (in, e.g., Austria, Hungary, Italy, Romania, and France), parties which “focus primarily on a perceived threat from Islam” (in, e.g., the Netherlands, Denmark, Poland, Sweden, and Switzerland), parties which “restrict their propaganda to a perceived threat to their national identities from ethnic minorities” (in, e.g., Hungary, Greece, Italy, and the United Kingdom), and parties which “endorse a fundamentalist Christian conservative-reactionary agenda” (in, e.g., Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria).[8] According to The Economist, the main attraction of far-right parties in the Scandinavian countries is the perception that their national culture is under threat.[9]

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