CantaloupeLifestyleLegal experts: Trump's unhinged attack on judge in court shows he "realizes he's going to lose"
He’s already lost, this trial is only to determine how much it will cost him. I think it’s more that he’s realized how bad his attorneys are, and that he’s going to lose everything.
He’s almost certainly going to appeal whatever verdict he gets, claiming that he had ineffective legal council and that the judge was biased against him.
“My trial was unfair!”
“On what grounds?”
“I made it unfair for myself!”
Your honor, I object!
And why is that?
Because it’s devastating to my case!
liar liar - devastating to my case
cedarmesaYerp. Glad someone else is seeing it. In his other trial his lawyer straight stated he was going to be ineffective counsel ahead of the actual proceedings. They know hes fucked in every case against him. Hes going to attempt to claim ineffective counsel in every case in hopes he can win on appeal or take it to his hand selected supreme court (thanks obama).
RBG was too ______ to retire as well.
RiccosuaveI hate to be that guy, but you can’t appeal on ineffective assistance of counsel in a civil proceeding.
Since when has something being legal or not ever stopped Trump from trying it?
I’m not sure what you mean exactly in this context? Are you saying he will try to appeal on those grounds anyway? If that is what you are saying then it doesn’t work like that because the appeals court will simply throw out the appeal for lack of standing I believe.
That’s exactly what I’m expecting would happen. Trump submits paperwork trying to appeal, it gets rejected for not being valid grounds to appeal, and he cries persecution in the media.
Oh, well in that case then I guess I agree with you. Both because that is his M.O. and also because his legal team in this specific case is especially incompetent.
HanabieI’d love to watch him cry about it in jail, but I’m not hopeful he’ll actually end up there.
why do you hate to be that guy that is relevant information i didn’t have and other than the disclaimer you delivered it succinctly and without drama keep being this guy mate
I don’t know, I just feel like correcting people on the internet often comes off as being pedantic even if that isn’t the intention. That is why I included the disclaimer I suppose. Thanks for the kind words though, I appreciate it.
Whoa, whoa…I was told this was a Reddit replacement and this is way too kind, humble, accepting, and level headed.
This is downright peaceful.
Stop being aggressively reasonable!!
This oversight was first reported over two weeks ago, yet he hasn’t mentioned it or taken action in any way. Wonder if that would have an effect on such an appeal.
I don’t think it would because it is unlikely this case would have been granted a jury trial anyway due to New York law. There are specific requirements for requesting a civil jury trial in New York, and all the legal analysis I have seen has suggested they would not have met that bar.
Jury Trials are onerous on the public and the judicial system, but are fundamentally necessary as well as guaranteed in criminal proceedings. However, for civil matters that is the exception rather than the rule.
Interesting, I hadn’t heard the possibility that he may have been denied a jury until now. Maybe that’s why he’s been quiet about it (until now of course.)
It wasn’t denied, his attorney’s never requested one in the first place. It is unlikely it would have been granted even if they had due to the aforementioned reasons. However, that has not stopped Trump from saying he was “denied” a jury trial which is just patently false.
Yes, I know he failed to request one, I broke the story here on Lemmy over two weeks ago
I meant that it never occurred to me that if they had requested one properly, that he might be denied and have to have a bench trial anyway.
I see, my bad. Was just confused by the verbiage.
No worries, I probably could have phrased it better.
Even if he did appeal, would that delay execution of the resulting court order?