Flying SquidOct 2, 2023

Stew Peters Advocates for a Violent Overthrow of the Government

https://lemmy.world/post/6156979

Stew Peters Advocates for a Violent Overthrow of the Government - Lemmy.world

Why this is important: > Stew Peters is a far-right virulently anti-LGBTQ bigot who regularly uses his nightly “The Stew Peters Show” program, speeches, and social media accounts to promote white nationalists and antisemites and to spread wild conspiracy theories, bigotry, and calls for violence. Despite his bigoted views and unhinged rhetoric, Peters regularly manages to get Republican leaders, elected officials, and candidates for office to appear on his program. In addition, Peters has participated in ReAwaken America events alongside various Trump insiders and members of the Trump family.

Show threadMagicShelOct 2, 2023

I thought advocating the violent overthrow of the government was illegal? I have questions. It floors me when one side refuses to use the existing mechanisms to combat the illegality of the other as if it would be ill-mannered of them to quash murderous rhetoric.

They say it takes two sides to fight, and that’s true. You have to cooperate with someone looking for a fight. But you also have to cooperate with someone trying to walk all over you. Fascism must be killed in the crib. We’ve seen what happens when you don’t.

There is a war happening right now over the soul and future of America and one side has no idea it’s even fighting. I love this country too much to see it fall to the wrong side of history. But things are looking bleak.

Show threadkavaOct 2, 2023

It really depends how you say it. You can say things in such a way where you’re covered under free speech. For example

Telling a mob to “go over there and attack all the dirty [racial group] to cleanse our city” is 100% incitement and you will go to jail, regardless of who you are

But going onto your podcast and saying “man, I really think the best thing for our society would be to get rid of all the dirty [racial group] so we can be cleansed” is protected under free speech

It really depends on what the man who’s the topic of the OP said, to determine whether he said something illegal or not.

Keep in mind they tried to fight fascism in Germany too. They sent Hitler to jail. Eventually he got broken out and he became dictator shortly after. I think ultimately speech and hatred is not the problem - it’s the symptom. As long as we have people suffering under an economic system that doesn’t provide for all their basic needs, we leave the door open for people like Trump or Prager to sneak in and offer a solution.

Can censor and deplatform all you want, won’t make a difference.

Show threadHankMardukasOct 2, 2023
My worry is that if we send trump to jail for any one of his felonies, he will get out somehow and lead a coup.
Show threadkava

yeah the historical record isn’t great on this. I think Trump has realized he is at the point of no return. he’s crossed the rubicon. at this point unless he wins this election he’s going to jail for the rest of his life.

pushing an animal into a corner makes them desperate. i think he will attempt to take over the government or die trying. it’s a very precarious position and the future is uncertain

Oct 2, 2023 at 2:00pmWeb
Show threadDudeBoyOct 2, 2023

Yep. But what else can be done? If we don’t stand up and show them that we will not tolerate facists and we will prosecute them from their crimes, they will keep trying to weasel their way into elected positions.

At the end of the day, standing up for our democracy is of utmost importance. Even when they threaten us, we HAVE to stick to our ideals.

I believe if we got through the 60s without a violent uprising, we’ll do it again today. We just have to show our strength. Facists rarely have the balls target the strong and organized.

Show threadHankMardukasOct 2, 2023
No, I’m not saying we don’t jail him. He’s clearly guilty, come on.
Show threadkavaOct 2, 2023

guilty or not doesn’t really matter here. i’m not saying we don’t jail him either, but just because something is the right thing doesn’t always make it the right thing. if that makes any sense

if you have the right of way and decide to go through that intersection consequences be damned, some of the time you’re gonna get hit by someone who doesn’t care about traffic laws

you’re right - but you’re dead

trump broke the law. but arresting him and not letting him flout our laws may end up causing more damage due to unforeseen consequences.

i’m not saying this is actually the case, but it’s something to consider. and i’m sure the prosecutors in all of these cases have had some serious counsel from officials high up in the federal government

it’s all uncertain and all paths are dangerous. who knows what’s coming next, honestly. my hope is the guy just has a stroke and the momentum he’s been building since 2016 peters out. i don’t think there’s another contender that can do what he’s currently doing

Show threadSnowdenHeroOfOurTimeOct 4, 2023
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Show threadkavaOct 4, 2023
Maybe if you’re edgy enough people will assume you have the capacity original thought