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Custosliberahad that experience a couple weeks ago. Didn’t think they would literally just ignore me, but ok.
good luck to whoever needs to deal with these people!
𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
My favorite quote; for the people that take it as a complement.
You can’t fix stupid. You’re likely dealing with a religious nut. There is no hope for logic when the person believes in magic and invisible bullshit.
herzberd
Same shit different target
But not really. It’s just more of the same old Othering. It’s a tale as old as time, and I’m genuinely tired of it.
Squorlple
photonic_sorcerer
GormadtThey do have empathy, for their in group.
Those in the out group don’t deserve empathy on their opinion.
It’s a really fucked way of looking at the world.
I’m assuming you mean that thing where people can imagine what another person feels?
I have a hypothesis: they do imagine what others feel, but they imagine it wrong. For instance, a transphobe might try to imagine what it’s like to be trans, but the closest to that they can get is doing it for shits and giggles or for perverted reasons, so that’s what they think it must be like.
Of course, most logical evidence would disprove that, but empathy (feelings) trump facts to some people.
Patimation StudiosSame goes for tankies.
You cant logic someone out of a position they didnt logic themselves into.
They believe in this horseshit because they want to, not because they think it makes any sense. They believe in it because they are scared, stupid and confused.
I don’t try to defend them, fuck them, but after having so many arguments with tankies on lemmy I simply came to a conclusion that if I crticise ruzzia or China and someone comes to defense to them with well known propaganda “arguments” I just call them a bitchass tankie and block them
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FleetingTit
This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥China isn’t communist either.
But who will tell that to tankies?
Isn’t it a 1 party “democracy”, where the party in control is the Chinese Communist Party?
Isn’t it easier for me to just Google this rather than ask strangers on Lemmy?
Whaaaaat??? A nation with a stock market (=> workers don’t own the means of production) AND with billionaires isn’t communist?
Next you’re telling me North Korea isn’t a democratic republic.
Stoneykins [any]Typically the word to refer to communists that are pro-authoritarian, pro-military force, and some amount of bizarrely nationalist.
The word is also, confusingly, used to describe all communists (by people that don’t like communists) and several other subcategories. Really, you can’t ever guess how someone means it when you see them say it. Some people self-describe as tankie, either because they fully agree with the term, or because people call them that anyways.
On lemmy, 90% of the time, “tankie” just literally means “someone from lemmygrad or hexbear”, which is kinda fairly earned, because that is where all the pro-authoritarian, pro-military force, bizarrely nationalist communists hang out, but to be clear, not all of the people in those communities are like that.
Also they hate being defined this way. They will ramble for hours about how “anti-authoritarian” isn’t real or is counter productive, and more pike that. While spamming weird left unity emojis every time someone mentions anarchism…
The word is also, confusingly, used to describe all communists (by people that don’t like communists) and several other subcategories.
Which is hilariously ironic given the term was created by communists
DessertStorms
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Holzkohlen
moosetwinbut they’re convinced the real problems are vaccines
I don’t think that’s a conservative thing, just a general lives-under-a-rock thing.
and not enough dead trans people.
And that’s the real issue for me, these people want my brother dead just because he is trans. He hasn’t hurt anyone by being trans, they hate him simply for who he is.
xedrak
MrMobius Some people, regardless of how far their views are, can have those views changed.
Some people, regardless of how close their views are, cannot have those views changed.
“Changing their minds” is always an incomplete solution to prejudice. It should be attempted, but cannot “solve” the issue culturally.
Long term, yes, I won’t deny it.
But to be morbid, there are people who will never change their minds, and educating the next generation that replaces them to be better after they die is slow.
What is really needed, as soon as possible, is robust legal protections and rights, any way those can be acquired.
don’t argue with logic appeal to their emotional side.
I love the irony of this 😈 just don’t ever let them know you’re trying to convince them with their feelings instead of facts!
Nepenthethey are not human beings capable of thought or reason.
Not that I don't agree entirely with everything else you've written. The left routinely has this severe problem where they're unable to acknowledge people for who they are and out of natural idealism convince themselves that if the opposition desires something harmful, it must only be because they don't understand they're doing harm.
Therefore, all one must do to combat evil is to go, "nooo, stop, you're going to make someone sad!" and after that doesn't work, they're out of ideas so they just keep trying the golden rule over and over.
But holy shit, dude. They can be vicious. They can even be dangerous enough to pose an unacceptable threat to life. They're still human.