atmur

There's still room for improvement, but Linux gaming has come a long way in a short time.

https://lemmy.world/post/6140625

There's still room for improvement, but Linux gaming has come a long way in a short time. - Lemmy.world

I remember when Proton launched it was like magic playing games like Doom and Nier Automata straight from the Linux Steam client with excellent performance. I do not miss the days of having the Windows version of Steam installed separately.

Oct 2, 2023 at 1:49amWeb
Show threadApollo2323Oct 2, 2023
True I just moved my gaming PC to Linux and wow!! Almost all of my games run on Linux. Thank you for everyone working so hard.
Show threadthe1bobcatOct 2, 2023
This is the main reason, other than Hog’s lack of support, for not going full Linux.
Show threadJulianOct 2, 2023
You can use a launcher like Heroic to play games you have on gog or epic.
Show threadWhiskyTangoFoxtrotOct 2, 2023
Also Lutris. I haven’t actually tried Heroic so I don’t know how they compare, but Lutris is a pretty good launcher.
Show threadRikudou_SageOct 2, 2023
I buy mostly GOG games (like 90%) and with Heroic it’s quite easy.
Show threadnewIdentityOct 2, 2023
But it’s not as good as simply using steam
Show threadRikudou_SageOct 2, 2023
Nope, not yet. But it’s getting there. And at least for me it’s worth it.
Show threadAvid AmoebaOct 2, 2023
Also thank Valve and buy a Valve game.
Show threadhperrinOct 2, 2023
Or a Steam Deck. :)
Show threadRikudou_SageOct 2, 2023
Honestly, if you have the extra money, buy it. It’s just a great device.
Show threadCaptDustOct 2, 2023
Anticheat is about to force this progress backwards years.
Show threadparpolOct 2, 2023
Publishers who do this make shit games anyway. I see the publishers slowly fading while indie studios continue to shape the new standard of video game quality.
Show threadOswaldBuzzbaldOct 2, 2023
Are we watching a “changing of the guard” where the studios that used to bring out the hits are dying, shedding their talent and new indie projects are blooming in the fallout? I remember Bioward being a fantastic studio during the Mass Effect (and prior) years. They’re a shell of their former selves now. I see this happening with Bethesda now too, although Starfield is not that bad. It’s just nowhere near as epic and fun as Skyrim was. Then you have studios like CDPR that seemed poised to take the crown with CP2077, and although it’s a great game, they certainly fumbled hard at launch. It’s an interesting time in the game industry.
Show threadkebabslobOct 2, 2023
Hey pro tip, if a game isn’t nearly as epic and fun as one that was released like 12 years ago, then its OK to call it a bad game. Cuz that’s certainly not good
Show threadOswaldBuzzbaldOct 2, 2023
To be honest, I think if I were to go back and try Skyrim now, I’d probably feel pretty similarly about it as to how I do about Starfield. I still enjoy gaming, but it doesn’t enthrall me quite the same as it used to. Part of adulthood I suppose.
Show threadJimboOct 2, 2023
I would say the same, but only because the standards of current Gen games has definitely gone up since then. There just weren’t games like Elden Ring and TotK around when Skyrim was released
Show threadswab148Oct 2, 2023
Should I give TotK another chance? I just find the building mechanic very tedious, even with Autobuild. Is the storyline really worth it? I’ve gotten as far as beating the first four temples, if that helps.
Show threadRikudou_SageOct 2, 2023
It’s not about the storyline at all. If you don’t enjoy the mechanics, you won’t enjoy the game. I’m in the same boat - I’d really like to like it, but I play games mainly to tell a story, BOTW and TOTK don’t deliver on that front.
Show threadswab148Oct 2, 2023
I liked BotW, I just can’t get into TotK. It’s like they took an okay thing, and heard all the complaints about that, then turned those into features. I wish I hadn’t downloaded it, at least if I’d gotten a physical copy I could get some money back.
Show threadkebabslobOct 3, 2023
Try playing Yakuza
Show threadbatmangrundiesOct 2, 2023

Indie Devs haven’t even begun to fully leverage all the new tools offered by recent Blender / Unreal / Godot.

And AAA studios are too big to leverage them effectively.

I think we’re going to see continuing leaps forward in workflow and tools, allowing smaller teams to make whatever they want at any scale. We’re kind of already there honestly, it just about applying it all meaningfully.

Show threadMousePotatoDoesStuffDec 8
Wannabe indie dev here, got any quick suggestions?
Show threadRikudou_SageOct 2, 2023
I still have faith in CDPR, they had one excellent game, one that they fucked up a bit and few relatively unknown but overall good games.
Show threadOswaldBuzzbaldOct 3, 2023
You know, I really do too. I actually had a lot of fun with CP2077 when it came out, but had to quit on the last 1/3 of the game because of a permanent sound glitch. I am very excited to jump back in.
Show threadHuschkeOct 2, 2023

I’ve recently picked up CP2077 again and let me tell you the experience is night and day. While the current version does not excuse the extremely subpar launch version I don’t think CD Projekt Red deserve a spot on your list.

A company that definitely fits your criteria is Blizzard. All the people I know that worked there quit and a lot of them told me about a huge brain drain that was happening which judging by what we know about the code of Diablo 4 sounds reasonable. At this point the company only exists because of nostalgia and even the gamer dad’s are getting more and more frustrated with them.

Show threadatmurOct 2, 2023

Publishers who do this make shit games anyway.

As someone who really wants to see desktop Linux grow, I try not to think like this because I know others care about these games…but goddammit if I don’t completely agree with you on the inside. I do not understand the obsession with these games products, they’re exclusively designed to keep you playing and paying for as long as possible to avoid fomo for digital garbage.

There are a tiny handful of non-live service games that still use anti-cheat, and most of those have already enabled support for Proton. Dragon Ball FighterZ is literally the only exception that I can think of, and even that’s playable offline IIRC.

Show threadBURNOct 2, 2023
There’s yet to be a good major fps game from an indie studio. Once that happens maybe there’s a chance, but fps games make up a massive portion of the industry
Show threadnewIdentityOct 2, 2023
Actually most anticheat now also supports Linux with Proton
Show threadNegativeLookBehindOct 2, 2023
Good, ditching windows entirely is in my near future.
Show threadbruh_momentoOct 2, 2023
Finally did it a few days ago. Not only gaming (and emulation in general) is more fluid, but the sheer amount of customization available makes me never want to go back to Windows.
Show threadAlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦Oct 2, 2023
And to say that there used to be a time where “Linux gaming” was an oxymoron as it at most meant SuperTuxKart or mindlessly watching glxgears.
Show threadatmurOct 2, 2023
Mindlessly watching glxgears is the greatest experience a GPU can render.
Show threadRikudou_SageOct 2, 2023
They’re so smooth when you buy a high end graphics card.
Show threadAlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦Oct 2, 2023
Windows gamers will never understand the joy that glxgears gave us
Show threadAvid AmoebaOct 2, 2023
Been playing Warcraft 3 / DotA and Counter-Strike on Linux since 2005. Still playing Dota and Counter-Strike. Are there other games worth playing?
Show threadredcalciumOct 2, 2023
Is there something like vulkangears now?
Show threadrussjr08Oct 2, 2023

vulkangears

I know that the vulcan-tools package has vkcube in it. Someone did make vulkangears as an example, along with some other examples, but I don’t think its a published package in any distro repos so it’d need to be manually compiled to run it.

GitHub - KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Tools: Vulkan Utilities and Tools

Vulkan Utilities and Tools. Contribute to KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Tools development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadAnafabulaOct 2, 2023
vkcube exists in most repositories I guess
Show threadSoleInvictusOct 2, 2023
I remember when Linux gaming meant Nethack.
Show threadcircuskidOct 2, 2023
I mean, Nethack is still great…
Show threadcheery_coffeeOct 2, 2023
Bzflag was pretty fun too!
Show threadTwospoonsOct 2, 2023
If only Linux wouldn’t Bork my whole install when I try to switch to 144hz on my monitor.
Show threadatmurOct 2, 2023

That’s a weird one. I’ve been running a 165hz primary monitor and a 144hz secondary for a while on AMD, Nvidia, and Intel GPUs. I’ve never had any trouble with them.

Were you using Wayland or X11?

Show threadeuphoric.catOct 2, 2023
never had any trouble either, with 240hz here
Show threadTwospoonsOct 2, 2023
Honestly don’t remember which I was running. Was a new install of testing Endevour OS with an Nvidia card. Changed the refresh rate through the display settings to 144 and it went black and never came back. Fixed it back to 60 through cli boot eventually but it never liked changing it off that.
Show threadBURNOct 2, 2023
I can verify I’ve had this exact problem. Never found a solution. My Linux box has been changed to Manjaro so it’ll work now
Show threadkebabslobOct 2, 2023
You’re not supposed to run “rm -rf /” to change refresh rate
Show threadhperrinOct 2, 2023
Are you using some weird video setup? I’ve had some issues with DisplayLink but never anything worse than needing to reboot before it will work again.
Show threadrasensprengerOct 2, 2023
Borking an entire install by pressing buttons on a monotor is pretty difficult. What exactly were you doing? Did you ask your OS’ community for support?
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherOct 2, 2023
Yeah, sounds like a PEBKAC problem to me. 😁
Show threadrasensprengerOct 2, 2023
Well even if the user doesn’t really know what they’re doing, things shouldn’t easily break, that’s just bad.
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherOct 2, 2023

I'm not convinced this is a valid statement: If only Linux wouldn’t Bork my whole install when I try to switch to 144hz on my monitor.

If he says his install is borked I believe him. If he says it's "just" because he tried to switch to 144hz on his monitor, eh...

Show threadBURNOct 3, 2023

Setting any of my monitors to 4k or 144hz just resulted in a completely black screen that persisted through reboots. Only solution I found was to plug into a completely separate, lower resolution monitor.

No clue what caused it, but it’s not isolated to just op

Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherOct 3, 2023
Out of curiosity, nvidia blob driver also? (I, too, run the blob driver, but I'm just curious if it's a common denominator)
Show threadBURNOct 3, 2023

I think so. It’s been a while since I set it up.

Since I can’t remember setting up the proprietary ones, I’d assume it’s the blob

Show threadTwospoonsOct 2, 2023

All I did was on first install go to display settings and change to 144hz in the OS and screen then goes black and never came back. Force a shutdown and boots back to a black screen after login.

I was eventually able to change things back to 60hz and working through booting to cli but 144 never wanted to work (am admittedly using Nvidia card).

So not completely borked but not ideal at all.

Show threadrasensprengerOct 2, 2023
Ah yeah nvidia can be painful, especially if you want wayland. But this seems to be a simple modesetting issue, I’m sure there are some known workarounds. You can also report driver bugs directly to nvidia, but I don’t know if that will do much.
Show threadCaptain AggravatedOct 2, 2023
In the time I have been a Linux gamer, it has gone from “here is a list of games that work in Linux” to “here is a list of games that do not work in Linux.” Which some dictionaries define as “progress.”
Show threadatmurOct 2, 2023
That’s a perfect way to put it. From constantly relying on ProtonDB to occasionally checking areweanticheatyet.com.
Show threadRubberElectronsOct 2, 2023
Oh I never even heard of that second site haha.