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This is why people use Windows

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This is why people use Windows - Lemmy.world

Khaled: Another one [https://i.imgur.com/6U4A461.png] Please fucking explain why this is a problem. I have a folder with movies on an external HDD. I want to move them to a different subfolder. The first twenty worked fine without any issues - as expected. Then I get this error, and it doesn’t tell me why in a human language that can be understood by humans. So, I’ll go ahead and ask here. Do any of you have any idea wtf this is? I’m on Fedora 38.

Sep 30, 2023 at 8:00pmWeb
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
A LOT OF HURT NECKBEARDS HERE RIGHT NOW. OUCH! HOW COULD THE ALL MIGHTY LINUX FAIL AT SUCH A SIMPLE TASK! LET’S BURY THIS WITH DOWNVOTES 😂
Show threadJoshixSep 30, 2023
@_I_ what file manager are you using and how are you moving the files?
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Nautilus. Drag and drop. Worked perfectly fine until it suddenly didn’t.
Show threadImacatSep 30, 2023

That error is saying you’re trying to move/rename the file to a name that’s already being used. Can’t do that on windows either.

That said, I’ve seen some weird issues with bulk file copies in Linux file explorers. Cli usually works better.

Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Well, the latest update is that I just opened the folder that it refuses to copy to, and there are indeed copies of the folders and files that I try to copy, but not all. What is going on, lol.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Booted into Windows and it moved everything just fine. Case closed.
Show threadImacatSep 30, 2023
Glad you figured out something that worked for you. Don’t be such a dick next time and you’ll find everyone will be more helpful.
Show threadTJmCAwesomeSep 30, 2023
Use mv
Show thread20gramsWrenchSep 30, 2023
You should switch back to windows, that would fix your problem.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
I dual-boot, so yes, but also no.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Update: Booted into Windows, and it actually worked fine there. Thanks
Show threadGebruikersnaamSep 30, 2023
Is it an ntfs partition that you opened on Windows? I remember getting an error like that cause Windows does some weird permission things. Other than that I’d try with the command line or a different file manager to try and discover what the error is.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
It is indeed NTFS. I use the same HDD between a Fedora and Win 11 dual-boot, then the single HDD is being used by Plex, so no matter if I’m logged into Fedora or Win 11, it’ll mount and read the content. It’s just acting REALLY weird right now. About half of the content got moved to the new folder, while the rest of them errors out.
Show threadpancakeSep 30, 2023
One way to see it is that if you tried to use a Linux filesystem on Windows, it would entirely refuse to read it. At least Linux can handle Window’s filesystems to a reasonable degree.
Show threadcodapineSep 30, 2023

Nemo on Windows can read extfs partitions better than NTFS plays with Linux. It’s more of a problem with proprietary file systems, not the open source file manager trying it’s best to reverse engineer the protocol.

When I dual booted, I would just share the extfs partition because it worked the best on both systems, once the extfs driver for Windows was installed.

Show threadlemmyvoreSep 30, 2023

Are you shutting down Windows without going through proper restart?

Windows has this really nasty habit of leaving NTFS partitions “dirty” until the next reboot, and fixing them on the fly when it starts. Meanwhile, if Linux is trying to use those partitions it will run into inconsistencies that will cause all kinds of errors.

There’s no easy fix for this, other than shutting down Windows properly and hoping it left everything in working order. You can try using ntfsfix on Linux before mounting the partition but it’s anybody’s guess if it will fix everything.

You can’t use another file system because exFAT and FAT are even worse than NTFS, and that’s all Windows supports natively.

You can try the other way around and mounting Linux ext4 partitions under Windows using WSL2. I know it can be done, I haven’t tried and can’t tell you what performance is like.

Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Thank you for a proper reply. That could in fact be the case. I booted into Windows and tried to move all my movies into the folder, and it worked without issues, so I’m not entirely sure what happened in Fedora, but oh well.
Show threadwantd2B1ofthestrokesSep 30, 2023
You were given almost all proper responses despite your unhinged edit rantings
Show threadHyonoKoSep 30, 2023
People use Windows because it comes preinstalled when they buy their computers.
Show threadmateomauiSep 30, 2023
Not always.
Show threadHyonoKoSep 30, 2023
Agree, but I feel the majority of Windows users would have just adapted to whatever came installed. But what do I know…
Show threadmateomauiSep 30, 2023
Sure, but that definitely ignores everyone who builds their own gaming systems starting with an empty hard drive.
Show threadHyonoKoSep 30, 2023
Ok, I actually forgot that many games only run properly on Windows. Maybe my claim was too simplistic.
Show threadmateomauiSep 30, 2023
And things like Adobe Suite, etc, for people required to use that for work, who cannot use a FOSS alternative.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Awww, did I hurt your little teeny tiny brain? Btw, this comment is not open-source, so FUCK OFF. Heil Google.
Show threadu/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)Sep 30, 2023

Well, actually…

Show threadjudasSep 30, 2023
IT’S THE YEAR OF LINUX! Let me boot up Photoshop. No, wait 😂
Show threadPuppyOSAndCoffeeSep 30, 2023
could be a perm issue
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
Already looked at it, and I have full permission.
Show threadPuppyOSAndCoffeeSep 30, 2023

Are you crossing a physical boundary?

If you have rw on dest but not src “Moves” (copy=>delete) can look like this

All it takes is for a lone soldier deep in a nest to have r - -

Show threadresketrekeSep 30, 2023
Love that movie.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
It’s actually in theater right now. Not theaters, but theater. My buddy, Bob Sacamano has a screening. Bring your own beer.
Show threadHyperrealitySep 30, 2023
Have you tried switching it on and off again.
Show threadatlasraven31Sep 30, 2023
Try shutdown now -r
Show threadu/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)Sep 30, 2023
Oh damn! I forgot I was ssh’d into the Sun. Don’t worry. It will restart shining in a few million years.
Show threadWalrusByteSep 30, 2023
I don’t see any angry replies. Are they just DMing you, OP?
Show thread∟⊔⊤∦∣≶Sep 30, 2023
Pretty sure this is the NTFS windows thing. I have never had this issue when using ext file systems
Show threadCorrodedSep 30, 2023
You really seem annoying based off of all those edits.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
After booting into Windows, you know, an actual functioning OS, and fixed the issue within 4 seconds, I’m quite enjoying myself. This is actually fun, and the neanderthals just keep on coming! Btw, I use Arch.
Show threadD1G17ALSep 30, 2023
14 Edits, talk about cringe.
Show thread_I_Sep 30, 2023
I’m having the time of my life. Virgins screaming at their screens, "NO! LINUX CAN’T POSSIBLY FUCK UP SOMETHING THIS SIMPLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MAMA!
Show threadjudasSep 30, 2023
STFU nig
Show threadsmileyheadSep 30, 2023

Maybe it is problem with NTFS, a filesystem outdated by 20 years that is still the only option on Windows.

Maybe it is problem with permissions.

Maybe it is something else.

But I won’t help you, because od your language. Like yeah, kernel running space stations and biggest datacenters surely has file system problems, when Windows just works (if we mean works on 2000’s attiture to IT).

Show threadTimeSquirrelSep 30, 2023
What in the fully chronicled psychotic breakdown is happening here?
Show threadjudasSep 30, 2023
Not sure, Daniel.
Show threadjudasSep 30, 2023
Daniel is such an idiot, linking his real fucking name to Lemmy 😂
Show thread20gramsWrenchSep 30, 2023
wow, you sperged out quite hard about such a simple problem, I’m glad you will be using windows from now on and won’t be hanging around *nix related discussion platforms
Show threadjudasSep 30, 2023
What are you talking about? I have like 32 accounts. I’m everywhere. I use Fedora, and I still prefer Fedora.I think it’s fantastic, and much better than Windows (from a technical side). I only use Windows for Game Pass gaming. Windows fixed my issue today, and people here are GOING APE, and I think it’s fucking hilarious. I’m actually enjoying this.
Show threadSkunkSep 30, 2023
Great edits ! I’m glad those worked, unlike your movie file name.
Show threadBoneheadSep 30, 2023

https://linuxpip.org/fix-directory-not-empty-mv/amp/

Like seriously, this was 2 minutes of googling. You're trying to move files to a target that already contains that file name. Just nuke the target directory and retry, or use one of the methods mentioned in the above article.

How to fix “Directory not empty” when using mv in Linux – LinuxPip

Show threadjudasSep 30, 2023
The Lord booted into God’s Operating System, Windows 11 PRO (notice Pro, please) and the movement of stolen goods were completed within seconds. Linux might be better to keep the opposite sex away, but Windows brings it all night. Oh yes.
Show threadBoneheadSep 30, 2023
Ah, so you're just a troll. Got it...
Show threadkaty ✨Sep 30, 2023
you wouldn’t rename a file