We should rename Solar to Patriot Power to make it palatable to the right

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We should rename Solar to Patriot Power to make it palatable to the right - Lemmy.world

The Left is doing it wrong. We need to stop calling it the green New Deal; and call it the Patriot Power Act. We’re not trying to go green or “Woke”. No! We’re making ’Merca energy independent! We’ll stop importing oil from the tourist countries! And be energy self sufficient! —BRANDING!!

Patriot Power is real, and it really sucks. It’s the solar power offerings through 4Patriots, weak-ass off-brand Chinese batteries & weak, overpriced solar panels. The only good things 4Patriots offers is survival food & sun kettles.

There are plenty of people on the right who would love energy independence, but problems include cost, infrastructure, and implementation. I’m team solar panel/nuclear power, but every few years…the solar panel tech gets way better than it EVER was. So when is the right time to plunk down tens of thousands of dollars?? It’s just now starting to get really good.

Wind turbines are also getting much better. And it’s about damn time.

The biggest financial problem is energy storage solutions, spend $5-10K per battery, and have it lose 40% of its effectiveness after 5 years?? Yeah, no thanks, I’m not an idiot.

But we’re coming up with (ACTUAL, WORKING, COST-EFFECTIVE) solutions for that problem, too. Sand, gravity, and waterfall batteries.

All this to say, the technology is just now starting to get serious traction & legs under it. ¯\(°_o)/¯ It’s not ready…until it’s ready. The ‘greenest’ things we can do, right now, involve reducing our usage & upping our efficiencies (via new windows/doors, insulation). That’s the smart money.

I just heard about gravity “batteries” that involve lifting concrete blocks to store potential energy, then dropping them to generate electricity with a turbine. It’s probably the most interesting thing I’ve heard of in a while and such a clever way to store energy without needing a battery.

Energy storage is THE issue…. You want to be a billionaire? Figure that out.

Pumped hydro, is great, but there are very few places where it is feasible

there are many nifty ways to do it. i like molten silicon for example silbat.com

but how about shift in perspective? if you want to get in on all renewable power source, maybe it’s you who should adjust power consumption a little bit instead? fortunately most of energy used is used up for heating, and you can plug all excess energy into heater, store energy in big barrel of water for all your heating needs, and skim electrical power when available + maybe batteries as a higher priority

if you want to get in on all renewable power source, maybe it’s you who should adjust power consumption a little bit instead?

What makes you think they haven’t already?

in some places energy for individual customer is cheaper at night, but the real deal is with large industrial power consumers, like arc furnaces or aluminum smelting plants. these things have special arrangements that allow grid operator to regulate some % of power in return for cheaper energy, either by remote control or on schedule. in principle the same thing could work for thousands to millions of water heaters, making it work like a large, one way “battery” soaking up peaks in energy production