MicroWaveSep 27, 2023

Manhunt underway for ‘extremely dangerous’ convicted felon suspected of killing a 26-year-old female tech CEO in Baltimore

https://lemmy.world/post/5825475

Manhunt underway for ‘extremely dangerous’ convicted felon suspected of killing a 26-year-old female tech CEO in Baltimore - Lemmy.world

Baltimore police are scrambling to find an “extremely dangerous” man suspected of murdering 26-year-old tech CEO Pava LaPere, who was found dead in an apartment building on Monday. The suspect, 32-year-old Jason Dean Billingsley, should be considered armed and dangerous as he is wanted on charges of first-degree murder, assault and other offenses, acting Baltimore Police Commissioner Richard Worley said Tuesday. LaPere, co-founder of the small startup EcoMap Technologies, was reported missing Monday morning, police said. Hours later, police were called to a downtown apartment building, where LaPere was discovered with signs of blunt-force trauma to her head, Worley said.

Show threadHotdogmanSep 27, 2023
Serving 30 years, released after 7…
Show threadHazdazSep 27, 2023
With all the bleeding-hearts on Lemmy who think we should be coddling criminals, I’m not shocked he was released after serving just 1/4 of his sentence. Clearly he was rehabilitated!1!!! Oh wait. No he wasn’t.
Show threadGlitzyArmrestSep 27, 2023
It’s almost like the US prison system isn’t meant to rehabilitate and instead is meant to control the lower class and imprison the ‘right’ people.
Show threadbobmanSep 28, 2023

The idea that imprisonment is for rehabilitation is fucking stupid and new.

Prison may rehabilitate some people, and those people should have the means to seek that rehabilitation if they want to.

The main goal of prisons is to protect society from criminals by removing them and deterring others from committing crimes through fear of punishment.

I swear, some people just say dumb shit to see if it catches on. Unfortunately, ‘prisons are for rehab’ is just as stupid as calling people latinx.

I think it’d be hilarious if some right-wing troll just floated the idea to see how many fools would pick up on it.

Show threadBluetreefrogSep 28, 2023
Norway enters the chat.
Show threadbobmanSep 28, 2023

What about it?

The only difference between Norway and the US is their prison system?

Show threadBluetreefrogSep 28, 2023
Norway has demonstrated that rehabilitating prisoners leads to less crime than just punishing them. Who would be against that?
Show threadbobmanSep 28, 2023
People who realize that there are more differences between Norwegian society and American than just how they treat their prisoners.
Show threadBluetreefrogSep 28, 2023
I’ve provided evidence to back up my position. What have you provided except your opinion?
Show threadbobmanSep 28, 2023

What do you mean ‘my opinion’?

It’s a fact that there are more differences between Norway and the US than how they treat their prisoners. Do you think these differences may impact the recidivism rate of prisoners in either nation?

Show threadBluetreefrogSep 28, 2023

I’m addressing your main point, which was:

The main goal of prisons is to protect society from criminals by removing them and deterring others from committing crimes through fear of punishment.

My point is that deterrence has been proven to be a poor tool to reduce crime. Rehabilitation has been proven to be a relatively more successful tool to reduce recidivism.

The Norwegian approach to prisoners is one piece of evidence in support of this. Here’s some more (non-Norwegian) evidence:

www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/…/fear-punishment-deterrence

…law.northwestern.edu/…/viewcontent.cgi?article=7…

Of course there are other differences between the US and Norway, but that doesn’t change the validity of what I’m saying. If you want to argue that deterrence works, back it up with some evidence.

FEAR OF PUNISHMENT - DETERRENCE | Office of Justice Programs

Show threadbobmanSep 28, 2023

You didn’t answer my question.

Do you think these differences may impact the recidivism rate of prisoners in either nation? Yes or no.

Show threadblazeknave
You sound like Ben Shapiro you fucking moron
Sep 28, 2023 at 9:53amWeb
Show threadbobmanSep 28, 2023

Err… what?

Do you say that about everything you don’t like?

Show threadblazeknaveSep 28, 2023

Hahahahaha I don’t bc that wouldn’t make sense!

Do you always validate the very statements from which you’re trying to deflect by acting them out in real time?

(E. G. you didn’t acknowledge you were being like BS. And then, like BS, drew a false correlation to what I was saying and shifted the subject. Much like BS, the subject matter itself being the “opponent’s” “tactics.”)