I wonder what they thought of furbies

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I wonder what they thought of furbies - Lemmy.world

I don’t know that I’d trust an ornathologist to know how the brain chemistry works. But I do trust that they’re dumb. Lacking memory isn’t predictive of being dumb, but there’s probably some correlation. Maybe seagulls have perfect memory but just want to flip human observers the bird.

Maybe seagulls have perfect memory but just want to flip human observers the bird.

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Ornithologists do actual science, they aren’t just bird watchers. An ornithologist is pretty much the only one I would trust about this because they are the ones studying the birds.

"The greatest trick the devil ever played was making man believe he doesn't exist"

Those seagulls remember... and they'll have their revenge for that hot dog bun you scared them off in 04'. tick tok

I’m dumb and I can remember the 90’s

I’m sure there’s some seagull out there with a 1000-yard stare who went through the most fucked up shit of his life in the 90’s and remembers it like it was yesterday.

Too soon, too soon, too soon.

He stole food from Madonna too soon.

Too young, too young, too soon too soon.

I don’t remember the 90s either.

“You’re dumb”

-He

Back then, the Internet was cool.
Then wanted your French fries in the 90’s and they still want them today
Seagulls play dumber than they are, ever since Johnathan Livingston
This reminds me of a talk I had with my dad, an equine veterinarian for 40 years. I'd seen that video of a horse eating a chick online and someone in the comments explained that horses are naturally opportunistic eaters and that's why it took the chance to munch it down. I confidently told him this later on and he said, 'nah, they're just stupid'.
If you throw a blanket over a horses head, it will think it’s dead and starve to death if you don’t remove the blanket
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Are they stupid or do they know that death is just a dark void?
Got me wondering weather or not horses actually know something we don’t. They always had shifty eyes.
Someone on youtube said it therefore it must be true. I believe it.
I read a youtube comment once which said that comments on youtube are always accurate and trustworthy. So there you go.
The 90s are nothing. I remember a flock of seagulls from the 80s that are still flying around.
They just flew (so far away).
Hello, fellow old people. My 10 year old is sporting that cut, unironicaly.
Your 10 year old is cooler than most of us old people. Lord knows I couldn’t sport that cut ever. I have 1970s hair, and was born in 1980.
Spoiler alert: they couldn’t get away.
Wait till this person hears about parrots
For real, there are at least some parrots that are likely to outlive their owners. Like if you get a pet parrot you do it considering you will likely pass it on to someone else in your fucking will.

The sadder part of this is that many “pet” parrots live much shorter than their natural life in the wild because their owners don’t know how to care for them. They’re also extremely intelligent, some researchers argue that macaws can be considered sapient for example.

Even more widespread problem with koi and goldfish. They can live well into their 80s and can grow up to many pounds over that time, yet most people have their goldfish die after two weeks and just assume that’s their natural lifespan because they’re irresponsible owners. Hint: that glass bowl is not cutting it, there isn’t a single species of fish that can be healthy in a tank without an active circulation pump and filter. Also fun fact: the Western misconception that goldfish can be kept in bowls comes from the fact that in China and Japan where they originate, owners would sometimes put them in clay bowls to show them off (which were about a meter in diameter BTW, not the soccer ball sized bowls you see nowadays), they were kept in those bowls very rarely, they were traditionally raised in large ponds.

Do you mean goldfishes are like koi? I cannot fathom that, like… is it real?
Goldfish are very closely related to koi.
But… but they are soo small and fragile-looking!

So are all baby animals. Which is the only life stage of their species you’ve probably ever seen because most pet ones never live even close to their maximum lifespan.

Also, jellyfish are even more fragile looking yet some can theoretically live forever. Looking fragile to humans does not mean they aren’t well adapted to survive for a long time in their natural habitat.

I… I just cannot accept this reality. How did I, how do people, how… how could this misfortune happen???
Because of the industrialized pet industry, the likes of PetSmart. They’ve convinced people that small pets like fish are products that can be thrown away instead of living individuals. They’d rather your small pet die in two weeks because that just means you’ll be back to buy another one, so they’ve launched a propaganda campaign against any sentiment of responsibly caring for them and fooled the majority of people into thinking that it’s just their normal lifespan and they need way less care, equipment and commitment than they actually do.
They are related but not that closely. They share the same taxonomic family, but not the same genus. It’s like saying a fallow deer and a moose are very closely related. Or a panda and a grizzly.

My great grandad got a couple of cockatoos when he was in his 20s right after ww2 and they still managed to outlive him. Only by a few weeks mind you - poor things starved themselves to death out of grief after he died. He told us not to worry about rehoming them because he knew they wouldn’t be able to take the loss of loosing him at such an age.

He only had them because he took up conservation work and they’re just, native to Australia. They lived out in a big aviary he’d built with trees and bushes and even a water feature along with other birds he ended up aquiring. I adored those birds, but I genuinely can’t understand how or why you’d keep such a big beautiful intelligent bird as a pet in a cage on the other side of the world and it always weirds me out when I see these birds I grew up watching roam free eating all our damn lemons in someone’s house as a pet. It’s like if you an American saw someone keeping a racoon as a pet.

Or crows, they reach roughly the same age and ravens can turn fucking 80 in captivity, not sure how long they live in the wild tho!
Any bird who lives primarily in the water is dumb as shit. They have unlimited protection above and around them, so they have zero adaptive pressure to put anything into their intelligence. Land birds have a lot to worry about so their brains adapted near-human levels of intellect.
If the land birds get any smarter they’re going to have to start worrying about a whole lot more. Like taxes, or rent.
I mean some birds have been shown exchanging money for goods and services, so it’s not that far off.
Oh god no, someone needs to warn the birds about capitalism.
Birds are very good at stealing things, so I think it’s too late for that
Stealing requires the belief that other people can own things. They are simply taking what is rightfully theirs. Birds are billionaires.
A land bird flew into my window so hard I was worried it died this morning. This happens once a month to my knowledge and I don’t spend long in my bedroom outside sleeping. Land birds aren’t smart outside of a few select species lol
In all seriousness that’s more of a sensory limitation than an intelligence limitation. IIRC birds’ eyes work differently from mammals and they can’t see glass pretty much at all.
Yea I know, more fun to just imagine they’re dumb though
Wtf. Would you please do something about that?
What do you want him to do, start a bird college?
The only course they run is bird law
Are you implying that helping birds avoid windows is an unsolved problem?
Yes. The only solution that we’ve found is to make the window with a “frosting effect,” which humans don’t like because we can’t see through that.

abcbirds.org/…/truth-about-birds-and-glass-collis…

Why would you say something so blatantly silly?

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Like what? It’s a bay window like any other, I have blackout curtains drawn across it most of the time so I can sleep past 6. I’m not putting any stickers or anything on it that the hoa will get pissy about
What color are they? That could be a determining factor.
The curtains are beige
Try a darker color, beige may be a bit too light. I dont know what is with birds a beige but it tends to cause some weird shit.

abcbirds.org/…/truth-about-birds-and-glass-collis…

I’d discuss options with the HOA, but you do you.

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Put some stickers on your window
That just gives them a target. They can’t see the window. This is a real problem in some cities. AFAIK no one has found a real solution other than frosting the windows, but then humans can’t see through the windows and get irritated.
It’s funny, I went to visit a place and the person who lived there was starting to get their life in order, so they cleaned the window. I knew this because while I was there I heard a THUD and there was a giant streak of bird shit trailing down the window from the impact point.
SOLYX film claims to reduce bird strikes by 90%.

Funny story, never hit a bird with my car in Quebec, until I drove into Manitoba, where I proceeded to wack 3 in 2 days.

Birds seem to be stupid by region.