If government invested in a renewables program by installing charging stations almost equal to the amount of fuel servos we have, and heavily incentivise electric vehicles we would see a major transition without car manufacturers shoving corruption in our faces and money towards lobby groups.

Unlikely. Car manufacturers don’t particularly care how you’re going to charge it. That’s a you problem not a them problem.

They’re resisting because Oz has been a place they can dump polluting cars that are cheap to make. The big markets like EU and California have mandated EVs, if they can delay the cutoff here it buys them time to do the ramp ups they should have been doing for a decade.

Toyota in particular is the worst culprit, they spent a lot of money in the US trying to prevent ICE being banned, doing exactly the same here.

BEVs are a greenwashing scam. They are frankly just a ploy by corporations to be dependent on their product just like we are to oil. In fact, it's even worse since it is part of the Chinese government's agenda to of dominating the car industry. Much of what we hear may legitimately be propaganda from the Chinese government.

Toyota is fundamental correct in their assessment. The BEV is destined for failure since it has no purpose but the serve some specific group or interest. As a result, they've invested in alternative ideas such as hydrogen cars. Instead of being the curve, they are likely far ahead of it. It is everyone else that wasting all of their resources on a dead-end.

What nonsense.

Battery power is a technology that is continuing to grow with billions being poured into it from every industry imaginable.

The only people who want garbage like hydrogen are those who want to maintain the status quo of fuel being supplied by a few big producers.

You're just promoting BEV propaganda. And being a stooge of the Chinese government, the only group that even benefits from BEVs displacing all local car production. It is not a revolutionary technology. It is an obsolete idea from the 19th century. It is a greenwashing scam to think it has any real merit.

Meanwhile, hydrogen is made from water and represent an actual green technology.

do you actually know how hydrogen power works? hint: its not just chucking water into some sort of hydrogen engine

Hydrogen is electrolyzed from water. It is basically a battery made from water. It is a much better idea than a battery made from expensive metals that have to be mined in vast quantities.

and you must surely be aware that there are significant challenges in making this a commercially viable consumer technology, right?

im not anti hydrogen at all, its actually one of the main reasons i invested in FMG, but being against electric cars because you think hydrogen is better is frankly weird given that electric cars exist now and are starting to become more affordable for everyday people

There are challenges to every technology. But on the whole, hydrogen cars are a "solved" problem. We can all switch to them if we wanted to. The problem is BEV propaganda making shit up against hydrogen cars. This is really an attempt to block progress.

BEVs are a very limited idea. Not everyone can own one. The grid is not setup to handle hundreds of million of BEVs charging. And the resource requirements make them effectively unsustainable in their own right. So in reality, it's time to scale back our obsession for BEVs. If for nothing else, so we can have a backup option. The last thing we want is a BEV monopoly.

but are hydrogen cars really a solved thing? theres no infrastructure, like at all, to cater for them. while there is early, but increasing infrastructure for EV’s. If the choice was between hydrogen and petrol absolutely, roll that shit out today, like I mentioned im not against hydrogen power, but EV kind of has the momentum and logic behind it. With rooftop solar an EV is a no brainer, especially if you can charge during daytime