geosocoSep 26, 2023

Charges dropped against Philadelphia officer who fatally shot Eddie Irizarry at traffic stop

A judge dismissed all charges Tuesday against a Philadelphia police officer who fatally shot a driver last month....

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4223799-charges-dropped-against-philadelphia-officer-who-fatally-shot-eddie-irizarry-at-traffic-stop/

Charges dropped against Philadelphia officer who fatally shot Eddie Irizarry at traffic stop

A judge dismissed all charges Tuesday against a Philadelphia police officer who fatally shot a driver last month.  Mark Dial shot 27-year-old Eddie Irizarry through the rolled-up driver’s side window of Irizarry’s sedan during a traffic stop on Aug. 14.  Dial and his partner, Officer Michael Morris, say they had been pursuing Irizarry for driving…

The Hill
Show threadsquirrelwithnutSep 27, 2023
If a police officer can’t tell the difference between a knife and a gun, they shouldn’t be a police officer.
Show threadHazdazSep 27, 2023

Why would some “innocent” person be lifting a knife at all, let alone to a cop?

We going to pretend that knives aren’t deadly? Especially at close range?

Show threadProcleusSep 27, 2023
I can tell you with certainty that a knife inside a car with the doors closed and windows rolled up is not immediately deadly or even dangerous to anyone standing outside of the car. Unless of course the doors opened and the knife was brought out of the car, THAT would be deadly to the officer. But that isn’t what happened. And unless I’ve missed something, no one here has said or implied that the man with the knife was “innocent”
Show threadHazdazSep 27, 2023
He’s got a deadly weapon. Cop had all the cause he needed to drop this piece of shit. The world has lost nothing.
Show threadi_amSep 27, 2023
It sucks we have to live on the same planet as people like you
Show threadHazdazSep 27, 2023
There wouldn’t be much of a planet if everyone was like you - defending or apologizing for thieves, rapists and murderers.
Show threadSarachaSep 27, 2023
Most people don’t bend over backwards when the government kills a guy for the crime of, having a weapon that couldn’t possibly harm the officer. Unless we’re going to be good with cops shooting everyone with a NRA sticker on their car we probably shouldn’t be good with it here.
Show threadHazdaz
If you pull out a deadly weapon on a cop, don’t expect to ever make it home. That’s reality. Trying to act like pulling out a knife is normal behavior and then defending this guy is rather ridiculous.
Sep 27, 2023 at 1:44pmWeb
Show threadSarachaSep 27, 2023
So if we’re pretending that the cop could be taken at his word and also pretending that while behind a barrier that the cop would be beyond a reasonable doubt threatened by that, that’s still the crime of brandishing a weapon, which isn’t punishable by death in any court. Cops manage to not kill people all the time, it’s not unreasonable to hold them accountable to the already low standards we hold cops to in the US.
Show threadHazdazSep 27, 2023
Nothing of value was lost that day. Don’t pull knives out on cops. This isn’t a particularly difficult concept to understand.
Show threadProcleusSep 27, 2023
It’s really worrisome that you keep repeating the rhetoric of “nothing of value was lost that day.” A human life was lost that day. A mother and father’s son was lost that day. So you just believe that because he committed a crime (which, by the way, his only official crimes were traffic violations. Having a knife in his hands in his own car is not a crime), his life doesn’t have value? So should every criminal in our justice system just be put to death? Are you actually a sociopath? Nvm, I know the answer.
Show thread𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒Sep 27, 2023

Id like to specifically draw attention to “don’t pull a knife on a cop”

6 hour standoff, with swat in Atlanta - captured alive

4 hour standoff with a copkiller - captured alive

police break off chase in SF, suspect gets arrested anyway

These are MUCH worse than the current incident, and the suspects apprehended alive. Use of force continuum dictate that if the other party uses a Deadly Force Assault you are permitted to use Lethal Force. However they ALSO carry that if you can use a lower level to successfully walk away without Violence (the adjective proper) being needed, you have had a successful UoF.

Shooting a man IN the car is not proper use of force. If someone gets out of the vehicle without a clear verbal command, and lunges at persons with a knife, would be a fair use of force.

Man in custody after SWAT standoff at SW Atlanta rooming house

A man is in custody following a tense hours-long standoff with police officers and SWAT team members at a southwest Atlanta rooming house.

FOX 5 Atlanta