LemoineFaircloughSuperiority brings controversy
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JackGreenEarthWindows also doesn’t let you remove system apps.
Try me 😂
You can totally remove them, but it’ll just reinstall them back, or worst case scenario, you’ll break a part of your system, because Windows is a giant monolith of decades of built-up stupidity
Tbf, every moderately old software product is a collection of built-up stupidity.
even the kernel linux?
Checkmate, atheists
Eh, there are lots of utilities that will solve this problem very quickly and permanently.
SnipingNinjaAndroid doesn’t need that even no?
Depends what you mean. Most Android installs will have system level apps
Worse, intentional malicious stupidity.
Bro, do you even PowerShell? This is what happens when you refuse to use anything other than Linux. You become OS-illiterate and have no idea how to do basic shit in other systems, just like the morons who have to use Chromebooks in school and have no idea how a file system works.
I don’t have a printer.
I don’t like open ports.
Decides to remove CUPS.
“apt list -i cups”
There are like 7 CUPS packages and dependencies.
for each package “apt remove cups --simulate”
Get to package 6 and decide ‘Ok. No major issues, looks fine.’
For the first 6 packages “sudo apt remove CUPS”
On 7th …
Removing cups-pk or some shit… Removing mint-common… Removing cinnamon-desktop…
Oh, fuck
I feel like I broke my network because I removed python once.
When I was new to Linux I broke EVERYTHING.
Often.
The more you break, the more you learn.
Nobody tells me I can’t modify this file.
Eg. I once accidentally chmodded the entire root directory. (Recursion incident)
Linux does not like when the root fs permissions are ALL changed.
I had no internet at the time.
Thankfully, I had a library card.
Learned a lot about permissions that month.
(I enjoy doing things the hard way)
Did you manage to get your system working again? Iirc I did the same on Arch a few years ago and it wasn’t too bad to restore the system after looking at the permissions on a fresh install (maybe a container or vm, idr).
I tried. It was so long ago now I can’t even remember. It was xubuntu, though.
But, I’m pretty sure I had to take it down to the local shop and get a copy of the iso. (This wasn’t the only time I absolutely borked my machine)
Nowadays, I backup everything. I image the partitions. I create a separate partition for home. And I know what to never touch.
Agreed, backups are important. Before switching to NixOS (or image based OS like Fedora Silverblue) I made use of automatic btrfs snapshots. This makes these kinds of screw-ups simple to revert.
I’d like to say an overly optimistic chmod -R didn’t happen again but my old Nextcloud instance would like a word.
Thanks for reminding to do my backups again. I’ve recently build a server with enough storage so I’ll probably setup restic or borg. That means I can bring my external backup HDD over to my family as an offline/offsite backup.
I did something very similar while I was drunkenly troubleshooting issues on an old laptop and I gave up as soon as I saw the desktop going I just closed the lid and reformatted the next day
For some reason the entire global economy depends on imagemagik working. Only Linus and the Illuminati know why.
Linux: I can’t install steam without breaking my system
laughs in flatpak
Unpopular opinion: flatpaks enable lazy developers to keep old versions working longer.
And that is bad?
I think it’s a good thing to have software made by lazy developers available and working. Limiting yourself to software created by highly motivated developers may result in significant loss of available features.
If only there was a way to bundle it all together, like in some sort of pack…
I doubt bundling things together in some sort of pack would avoid every problem with python versions I could have. That doesn’t prevent a given python version from being marked as “end-of-life” and no longer receiving security patches.
Most software is produced and maintained for use solely by the company that produced it, and probably by people who are not experts in using python, so hiding the complexity that python versions and dependency versions are coupled seems like a bad idea, especially when one wants to limit the number of versions of the same software that is installed (and therefore re-use executable files to save disk and CPU usage and avoid accidentally using the wrong version of a program).
I have not interacted with flatpak in a professional environment, so I doubt I have been directly harmed by it. However, reducing the importance of quickly upgrading software after new versions are released is probably harmful overall: performing an upgrade will usually make development easier (so making it harder for me to pitch to managers that an upgrade should be done is harmful to my morale), and incentivizing having multiple versions of the same program accessible on the same system makes surprising problems more likely.
I think it’s fine as long as they aren’t terrible insecure. But if they’re using an old runtime, people will bother them about it.
Maybe you and Linus can’t…
Meanwhile everyone can install Steam on Windows/Mac without issue.
Sounds like Linux is great…
We don't talk about #3671. - Lemmy.world
Only the OGs will remember when Steam would sometimes rm -rf /* your system. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 [https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671] Template without text: https://img.ifunny.co/images/e31929a1a7bafa7e351e7b7cfaec531d12295fb3643ad444d75f2e979ccd657f_1.jpg [https://img.ifunny.co/images/e31929a1a7bafa7e351e7b7cfaec531d12295fb3643ad444d75f2e979ccd657f_1.jpg]
Steam Deck: am I a joke to you?
Ooopslaughs in Wine
??? I have it installed just fine.
I remember a bug in a steam installer though, that would rm -rf everything your user had access to. Not exactly a linux problem, but it only affected Linux Steam users. theregister.com/…/scary_code_of_the_week_steam_cl…
I think they’re talking about that time PopOS messed up Steam packaging and it was broken and it just so happens Linus (the tech tip guy) was trying to install it then and he ended up running a command to rememedy the situation that totally broke his shit. It was pretty funny
Isn’t Android just Linux under a hood? You are free to brick your device with root access.
russjr08Yes, but a lot of devices don’t support getting root access, or come with caveats from doing so (I remember at least on Sony devices in the past, doing so permanently erased the proprietary camera blobs which resulted in forever low quality pictures).
That being said, you can disable system apps in Android (with exceptions, can’t disable SystemUI obviously) which is about as good as deleting them. Since they’re on the system partition which is separate from the user data partition, it doesn’t actually grant you any usable free space anyways AFAIK.
It takes them back to stock, which usually gives you since space back
True, that’s a fair point, one which I forgot about!
southsamuraiEh, if you have root access, you can move things back and forth to the system partition if you want to make different use of the space. Not that that’s a good idea, but you can do it. You’d be better off going the custom rom route if you need the space that much. Or it used to be better; no idea if the current options for roms actually do it the same.
I remember disabling the Keyboard app on my phone with root
After that, I was unable to log in to the phone due to the inability to enter a password
I had to restore it from the phones BIOS
Hopefully one can plug in a USB keyboard and it allows you to enter your password if this happens again!
HOW TO CONNECT A COMPUTER KEYBOARD TO MOBILE PHONE
PsythikYou don’t even need root access to delete system apps. You can do it easily with ADB.
Exactly. And local ADB over wifi is a thing, so another device isn’t even needed anymore.
Yes and no. It's more akin to virtual system based on a running linux.
How is letting you brick your install with little warning an advantage?
bob_wileySeppuku? Or were you making a pun?
That was on purpose yes
Very old internet joke.
Thanks. I was out of the loop.
If Linux was an alcohol commercial: (NSFW) youtu.be/BcjKTDIRCKI?si=msp_CTu5BcCeQ-XZ
The Knot - Binding Agreement
FuglyDuckIf your computer is doing puzzles while running the mindless tasks you assign it…. I suggest maybe finding more stimulating tasks. Just saying… ;)
RomanmirAnd I think it’ll remove “rm” and keep right on going because Linux copies commands to ram then runs them, yeah?
Hmm I mean Ive never done it for obvious reasons but maybe? live cds/dvds load the wgole OS in RAM and could erase everything but I am not sure about the OS on disk. I could try it in a vm and see what actually happens
Yes, it's copied to ram. Which is also the reason you don't need to stop programs while live updating them.
The new version is only again copied from disk, when you start it at a later time.
gizmonicusOh yeah. I’ve done it just for fun before reimaging a machine. It will mostly complete (some stuff isn’t a real file so rm just fails), and your desktop environment will remain up and running while it happen. Then errors start popping up, icons stop working, nothing loads anymore, you can’t reboot or shutdown because those were actually commands, and they’re missing now…
Linux: “my users spend half their time troubleshooting”