simpleThe Minecraft wiki has been moved from Fandom to Minecraft.wiki
AlexWIWAMashallah
alhamdulillah brother
Inshallah all other sites will move off of fandom too
Amen đ¤˛đ¤˛đ¤˛
atocciA big win for the Minecraft community. The wiki experience had gone seriously downhill after Fandom took over.
BigFigHell yes, fuck fandom theyâve ruined so many of the best wikis
Fat TonyHow so?
If you have to access wikis from fandom, you can use breezewiki
ooh, they even have an extension to automatically redirect as well, very nice
SanctusHell yeah, fandom needs to be abandoned its an ad riddled shithole
RottcoddGood.
It's reached the point (or had a couple of years ago, which was the last time I went to a wiki hosted there) that it's virtually impossible to even read an entry, since there are so many ads that the actual text of the article spends more time off the screen than on it.
WintLizardIMO the worst part is the ads that auto-scroll you to the top of the page after youâve spent two minutes reading
Thatâs not unique to fandom. Many websites do that shit. Reader mode all the way, i say
Going to a site with a terrible autoplay pseudo-podcast that refreshes on every new page is basically the MySpace experience. Itâs incredibly difficult, by the way, for small projects to have their wikis deleted and wiki site staff are less than helpful. Always nice for a defunct wiki to rise to the top of search results when the project website hosts quite a bit more identically formatted information but without random penis based articles. I love that.
Can you tell me more about these penis based articles?
Penis magic became quite varied and popular in the forgotten realms for a time.
Legendary
Good to hear! I love that the path of exile community did similar.
Nice! Iâve been wondering what the outcome of this was
Yes!!! Everyone should abandon that ad-riddled shithole
EuroNutellaManSurprised anyone can use the internet without uBlock Origin tbh
SotuandusoI just use a different adblock ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
You should really use ublock
Why? Mine works just fine, and diversity is strength against countermeasures.
Eh you do you
A_Random_IdiotUblock origin, not ublock.
Ublock origin is the best adblocker.
ublock is a different thing thats no bueno
Yea I meant origin
Yeah still, the point is how tf do people tolerate the Internet with all the ads.
I used a browser on someone elseâs computer recently and was shocked at all the advertisements on sites I frequent. It really is a game-changer.
I only just switched over to firefox + UBO on my phone, and itâs so much better. I had just assumed that the beautiful ad-free experience I get on my PC wasnât available on phone, but by jove it is.
U matrix is also a great option, it takes original to the max and lets you automatically allow list or deny list specific domains and their components (html, css, JavaScript, cookies, frames, and xhr(i think that was the last option not sure)
It also lets you block mixed content, referrer information and a lot more. Itâs been incredibly helpful
RickyRigatoniuBlock wonât save you in steam overlay browser.
For that thereâs other ways buy honestly I almost never use it
Setup a Pihole and never face this issue again. Blocks ads at dns level which doesnât get everything but gets the majority of ads.
All you need to do is make sure to keep the lil guy updated. You can even view your traffic and see which ads arenât getting caught and manually add those domains.
Lastly, you play minecraft in steam? What is wrong with you đ
The Minecraft wiki used to be itâs own thing before moving to Fandom didnât it? Either way, very happy about this
Yes, it was great back then. I really enjoyed using it until they switched over to Fandom. So glad they got rid of it again.
SimplyTadpoleIâm glad Iâm not the only one who remembers. I wasnât very thrilled about the changeâŚ
Yeah, they were previously hosted by Curse until Fandom bought out all the Curse wikis and transferred them to their ad-ridden pile of shit
They should have gone the terraria way of handling a wiki before. Terraria has a functional wiki because itâs its own thing. I am not even sure the fandom websites is meant to be read given the amount of ads that litterally cover the whole page.
The Terraria wiki is hosted on wiki.gg, which the Minecraft wiki editors strongly considered (reading through the discussion, it seemed like a strong second choice behind Weird Gloop/RuneScape wiki). But wiki.gg really has a lot of the same problems as fandom, just to a lesser degree. Still has a fair amount of ads, still has wiki.gg branding on the website, and most importantly in the discussions I read, they wouldnât be able to use a domain the Minecraft wiki owns (as in it wold have been at minecraft.wiki.gg rather than minecraft.wiki). The big problem with no having their own domain is that if things ever go south with wiki.gg (for example if they get bought by Fandom), they would be starting from scratch as far as SEO/discoverability goes, same as they are now.
Weird Gloop (the host for the RuneScape wikis) offered fewer ads, a comparable hosting infrastructure, and the ability to use their own domain, as well as a lot of experience forking from fandom successfully, which sounds like it was really valuable to them.
KaynIt should be noted that Weird Gloop purchased the minecraft.wiki domain, leading me to assume that they currently claim ownership of it.
I hope the wiki team will be able to keep the domain of things really do go south with Weird Gloop.
Thatâs surprising given the discussions I read, but youâre right, a quick WHOIS search shows Weird Gloop as the owner. Iâm not quite sure why that is.
LCPThe response from the people Iâve talked to has been positive. Happy to hear that.
xavier666All Discord groups which manage Minecraft servers should announce this change. I manage a small one myself and did it just a day back.
Thank fucking god
Itâs embarrassing that huge and ongoing successful games canât shell out to host official wikis, but instead leave it to the community to either pay out or pocket (not happening) or pick whichever crappy provider they can find willing to host it for ads.
A good wiki needs to have mosly text, a modest amount of pictures, no self-hosted video, and low computing needs. While an unpleasant expense for a private individual, it doesnât cost a company much to host.
Margot RobbieA good wiki needs to have mosly text, a modest amount of pictures, no self-hosted video, and low computing needs.
Huh. That sounds kind of like Lemmy, wonder if someone will try to modify the software to support a wiki.
ramLooking it up, there is WikiWikiWeb implements Federated Wiki, which Wikipedia describes its primary features as:
adds forking features found in source control systems and other software development tools to wikis. [âŚ]The software allows its users to fork wiki pages, maintaining their own copies. Federation supports what Cunningham has described as âa chorus of voicesâ where users share content but maintain their individual perspectives. This approach contrasts with the tendency of centralized wikis such as Wikipedia to function as consensus engines.
Gonna look more into this today, because this sounds super interesting to me c:
Even Reddit has a built-in wiki system. Why not Lemmy too?
I donât think a built-in wiki should be a priority for Lemmy. The sysadmin of an instance.com instance can host a separate web app as a standalone wiki at wiki.instance.com.
For example, you could host an mdbook at this subdomain to serve as a docs-style wiki.
While I agree that itâs rather sad for developer not hosting their Wiki, I really never had any problem with the old hoster of the Minecraft Wiki. I certainly didnât perceive it as a âcrappy providerâ. It did exactly what it needed to and there werenât any intrusive adds or at least not to my attention. But maybe Iâm just really good at ignoring adds myself.
Ya, not all are the level of Fandom. The old one for Minecraft was somewhat tolerable without an ad-blocker. I donât really feel it is fair to blame the providers either - even Fandom. They are stepping up to offer something nobody else feels like paying for.
poppyYeah Bulbapedia is fan-run and does exactly what it needs imo.
While fandom sucks (although I think it used to be fine before the redesign many years ago) and game companies/publishers are cheap, I still think 3rd party wikis is going to better, even shitty ones like fandom, because guess what?
Just like every other âlive serviceâ (or even just old games!?! if youâre Ubisoft) everything will be fine and dandy until one day some suit decides to shut down the wiki to cut down on costs and all that information and community work gets flushed down the toilet.
With that said, instead of them making some wiki website, itâs nice when games lets you look up information in the game itself, without having to open the web browser and going to some wiki.
Maybe we needed a âShow wiki page for this item/quest/skill/monsterâ prompt, like Melvor Idle does (my recent example).
Arenanet provides a Wiki for Guild Wars 1 and 2. They are both amazing and the second one even integrates into GW2. When GW1 came out it started as a community service but Arenanet took it in officially.
Honestly, without the wiki and the massive work by the community Iâd be very lost in GW2.
This is the best take on this whole thread imo
JackbyDevOr, you know, make sure the game actually has all the information in it you need to play it.
This was a good change. Fandom always felt so amateurish even though itâs supposedly a big host. I like things to be more like wikipedia and not some blog masquerading as a wiki.