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Trump says Biden will be blamed for shutdown, urges GOP to dig in

Former President Trump urged Republicans to dig in as a shutdown looms over Washington, arguing Sunday that President Biden will take the blame if the federal government closes. Congress faces a Se…

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4221453-trump-says-biden-will-be-blamed-for-shutdown-urges-gop-to-dig-in/

Trump says Biden will be blamed for shutdown, urges GOP to dig in

Former President Trump on Sunday urged Republicans to dig in as a shutdown looms over Washington, arguing that President Biden will take the blame if the federal government closes. Congress faces an Oct. 1 deadline for passing a government-funding bill, and the impasse has been in the House, where Republicans have not been able to…

The Hill
Sep 25, 2023 at 5:35pmWeb
Show threadFlying SquidSep 25, 2023
Yes. Biden pushed the shutdown button he keeps next to the gas prices lever.
Show threadceenoteSep 25, 2023
Do you think he has a different button for each Trump indictment, or just an all-in-one button?
Show threadFlying SquidSep 25, 2023
It’s hard to know… are we talking about crafty and conniving Joe Biden? If so, it’s a whole console. Or are we talking about Sleepy Joe with dementia? In which case, it’s just one button and someone has to move his hand over it so he can press it.
Show threadcharliespiderSep 25, 2023
Yes
Show threadTolookahSep 25, 2023
It’s one of them tilty bobbing birds, how else would you get to whatever the count is now?
Show threadDLSchichtlSep 25, 2023
One big button that says “DO THE THING”
Show threadBilliamSep 25, 2023
Right above the Inflation Dial.
Show threadSinningStromgaldSep 25, 2023

FUCKING KNEW IT!

Show threadhydrospannerSep 26, 2023
I thought he just used the magic sharpie on economics reports that Trump used to redirect the hurricane.
Show threadplayer1Sep 26, 2023
Damn that senile Biden, he’s controlling everything with his senility/mastermind!
Show threadglitch1985Sep 28, 2023
Probably has that ESPN
Show threadDominusOfMegadeusSep 25, 2023
There’s so much wrong here I don’t know where to start.
Show threadRottcoddSep 25, 2023

I don’t bother with the right-wing propaganda networks so I don’t know, but I can’t imagine how they might spin this to blame Biden when his administration hasn’t even been involved in the process.

The whole thing hinges on a purely internal conflict not just within Congress, but in the House specifically. How does that even colorably come to be blamed on an entirely separate branch?

I don’t doubt that the propaganda outlets and the grifters will simply lie, and conjure up some entirely different account of things that won’t match up at all with the plain objective reality of the whole thing stalling because a group of hard right House members are demanding concessions and refusing to vote in favor of a budget that doesn’t include them, but I can’t even imagine what it will be, since it will have to be essentially completely false, from start to finish.

Unfortunately, I also don’t doubt that some significant part of the Republican base will believe whatever it is, since they’ve been so thoroughly indoctrinated and made so subject to their emotions that they literally can no longer distinguish between reality and fantasy.

Show threadReallyActuallyFrankensteinSep 25, 2023

You’re thinking too logically. Biden is “in charge.” That is enough for Fox News to blanket multiple news cycles with. “Biden ineffectual at preventing shutdown,” “Biden embarrassed as shutdown enters second week,” “Biden nowhere to be found as Congress deadlocks on reopening plan” and so on. They’re just going to say “Biden” and “shutdown” in the same sentence until a viewer believes - without ever having arrived at the conclusion - that Biden owns the shutdown.

Low-information right-wing viewers have no conception of, or interest in learning, how this all actually works.

Show threadGodricSep 25, 2023

What Fox has to say about the shutdown so far:

Show threadEchSep 25, 2023
Surprisingly critical of their own. Interesting.
Show threadCabrioSep 25, 2023
They finally have their own cancer to fight.
Show threadDLSchichtlSep 25, 2023
Unlike most cancers, I look forward to watching this one eat the host.
Show threadSmashingSquidSep 26, 2023
What are they saying on tv though?
Show threadGodricSep 26, 2023
I might run a Google search to factcheck something, you won’t catch me watching that brainrot so you tell us
Show threadRottcoddSep 25, 2023

Undoubtedly.

To paraphrase Lily Tomlin, no matter how cynical I get, it’s still not enough.

Show threadGodricSep 25, 2023

For the moment, even Fox News isn’t denying the current shitshow is the House’s problem

Show threadUristMcHollandSep 25, 2023
I wouldn’t even consider fox all that “right-wing” anymore. Besides the hardcore MAGA followers disowned Fox and switched to OAN and NewsMax.
Show threadGoodbyeBlueMondaySep 25, 2023

Please don’t let the far-right get away with distorting reality. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Fox News is right-wing, it’s just that we have extremely far right members essentially in control of the GOP.

Overton window - Wikipedia

Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 25, 2023
Is he wrong?
Show threadmorphballganonSep 25, 2023
Morons will blame Biden, shutdown or no
Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 25, 2023
Exactly. The people down voting me are way too optimistic about the average American.
Show threadTheJimsSep 25, 2023
Trump? always
Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 25, 2023
How? Americans don’t really understand how their government works, they just blame the president whenever something goes wrong.
Show threadUbermeistersSep 25, 2023
Ok generic and unskilled misinformationman
Show threadHooPhuckenKarezSep 25, 2023
Thanks Obama.
Show threadSatansMaggotyCumFartSep 26, 2023
How old are you?
Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 26, 2023

31 lol

Been around long enough to be extremely disappointed in American voters

Show threadUbermeistersSep 25, 2023
Since we’re asking rhetorical questions, are you stupid?
Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 25, 2023
Yeah I’m dumb as fuck, but that’s not really relevant. When bad things happen, Americans blamr the president. Deal with it.
Show threadPunnyNameSep 25, 2023
How about “no”?
Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 25, 2023
No what? Americans don’t blame the president when bad things happen?
Show threadUbermeistersSep 25, 2023
“You and yours” may be simple, bit don’t assume the same for “me and mine”, fucking thanks.
Show threadqueermunist she/herSep 25, 2023
I’m sure you’re very smart and not just another dumb American
Show threadTallonMetroidSep 25, 2023
As far as I’m aware, every time the GOP has shut down the government, it’s backfired on them. It seems to be the one thing that voters are able to reliably correctly lay blame for, so yeah, I’d say he’s wrong.
Show threadphilomorySep 25, 2023
Honestly, I kinda wonder why that is? Like, why is this the one thing they cannot reliably deflect the blame for? They manage it for just about all their other bullshit.
Show threadsin_free_for_00_daysSep 25, 2023
Every time the Republican economic terrorists do this shit, they get blamed. They are just too stupid to learn.
Show threadForestOrcaSep 25, 2023
I think it's reasonable to blame them, even charge them for the crimes they have done (people have suffered previously), and continue to do. Seriously.
Show threadIHeartBadCodeSep 25, 2023
Speaker of the House literally indicated he’d do this in his Inauguration speech
Show threaddarqSep 25, 2023

they get blamed

But does anything actually happen?

Are there any actual consequences?

Show threadBoddhisatvaSep 25, 2023
Obviously there are consequences. They get re-elected by their knuckle-dragging base.
Show threaddarqSep 25, 2023
Exactly. What we see as terrible breaches of ethics and integrity, conservatives see as "winning". And they like winning.
Show threadEnsign_CrabSep 25, 2023
Usually they rewarded with the concessions they want from the Democrats who are scared of being blamed for Republicans’ actions.
Show threaddarqSep 25, 2023
So it sounds like, contrary to what the previous comment said, republicans do learn just fine. They learn that they can get away with it.
Show threadblazeraSep 25, 2023
I feel like intent to undermine the functioning of the whole US government should be a crime
Show threadForestOrcaSep 25, 2023
IANAL, and that crime might be in the sedition/ treason category of crimes. And we have most of a specific political party that has been and continues to engage in this category of crimes.
Show threadAbidanYreSep 25, 2023
Add it to the list if you want. It’s pretty far down compared to some of the other stuff he’s done.
Show threadBwazSep 25, 2023
Absolute traitor.
Show threadflossdailySep 25, 2023

Trump presided over the LONGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN A IN HISTORY. And his party controlled all three branches of government.

We all know the Republicans are 100 percent to blame for not having the basic competence to keep the lights on.

Show threadYoBuckStopsHereSep 25, 2023
A free vacation for Federal Government Employees, at least those who knew to save up. Republicans do this every two years.
Show threadFuglyDuckSep 25, 2023
If the government pegs your job as necessary, you still get to show up to work.
Show threadYoBuckStopsHereSep 25, 2023
With no pay. Essentially slavery.
Show threadFuglyDuckSep 25, 2023

well, they’ll supposedly get paid when the government comes back.

At this point, I’m not so sure the government will come back.

Show threadYoBuckStopsHereSep 26, 2023
Honestly, it will last for a few days, maybe four.
Show threadwho8mydamnoreosSep 25, 2023
He is right, average joe republicans will blame Biden for this, because they have to to protect their identities as republicans, that requires blind loyalty.